Will Arsenal Get Thrashed By Barcelona

guyfawkes5 said:
Mate of mine said if anyone's built to beat Barcelona at their own game (i.e. without doing an Inter '10 or United '99 on it), it's Arsenal. I can sort of see what he means.
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Your mate is a complete moron then and doesn't understand, errm, football. The teams that are "built to beat Barca" are those with bagloads of pace and incredibly quick counter attacking, for Wengers early successful years that was 99% what our game was based on. These days our game is based on Denilson/Diaby/Song sideways passing for a few minutes before daring to go forwards. WE have one uber fast player, who can't cross, pass, dribble to save his life, and no other real pace at all in the team.

Barca only get hurt when people catch them on the break, and it generally happens when they have 8 players in the opponents half and Puyol/Pique around the halfway line, considering Pique is one of the worst ever defenders to be a starter at a top four club in ANY league, anyone has a chance for a lucky result against them, but even then Barca will normally outscore you badly.

Arsenal have a ridiculously small chance of doing well. We've got, realistically a single player in Fabregas who can play at Barca's level, and without people around him to pass to, its not all that worthwhile.

Also despite some deluded Arsenal fans, we've got a noticeably worse CB pairing that will probably play in the game. Well we can't match Gallas/Verm at all, but if Verm isn't back by then, any two we put out will be a joke in comparison.

Brentford could theoretically beat Barcelona, anyone can beat anyone anytime and anywhere. If pique has one of his bad games and scores an own goal then gets sent off while conceding a penalty, who knows. Realistically, I only hope we lose by a margin of less than 5, and only then so I can laugh at Mourinho.
 
Can I ask DM why you 'support' Arsenal? I am generally interested.
I am an Arsenal fan, and why I logically know we will get beat my heart has that feeling of what if, what if something magical happens and that is why I support a team. You on the other do nothing but moan ALL the time? why bother ?
 
Clipsey said:
Can I ask DM why you 'support' Arsenal? I am generally interested.
I am an Arsenal fan, and why I logically know we will get beat my heart has that feeling of what if, what if something magical happens and that is why I support a team. You on the other do nothing but moan ALL the time? why bother ?
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No doubt If Arsenal won the League, champions league and F.A cup instead of revelling in the glory like most fans, he would be on here putting Song and Wenger to rights and explaining how it was all luck. :p
 
To be fair he has a point, victories against weaker sides do mask a lot of issues we have in the team. It's no wonder that when we face better sides those cracks are exposed, and we're usually beaten by Chelsea, UTD, Barca etc.

A few years ago we could indeed take anybody on and have a really good crack at them. Now that's impossible - the squad's too full of crocks or they're too poor. This means they're not going to progress to what the standard used to be.

I think he's just late in realising this. It's a rubbish descent, but he's unlike other fans who have grudgingly accepted it due to having less cash etc.
 
drunkenmaster said:
Also despite some deluded Arsenal fans, we've got a noticeably worse CB pairing that will probably play in the game. Well we can't match Gallas/Verm at all, but if Verm isn't back by then, any two we put out will be a joke in comparison.
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I'm pretty sure Gallas only played for 45 out of 180 minutes last season. Denilson (45') and Silvestre (64') had to fill in for him. So we stand a better chance with a hopefully fit Vermaelen and whoever plays with him. Not to mention, RvP, Cesc and the Nasri we have this season were all absent.
 
sunnysingh said:
I dont think it will be that bad as people have suggested. But once Barcelona score I don't think Arsenal have the mental strength to compete.
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In the games last year Arsenal were 2 - 0 down having been outplayed for most of the game, they came back to 2 - 2 and then went one up at their place, and it should have been 2 straight after, Arsenal missed the chance and Messi went up to the other end and scored, then scored another 3. People forget that Fabregas, Arshavin, Gallas, RvP and Song (iirc?) were all missing for that game, which was practically the current top 5 performers at the time.

I'm not suggesting Arsenal will win, but the way people are talking about there being no chance at all and it'll be a huge thrashing is a little silly. What if Messi gets injured? or Xavi? What if Arsenal get all their main players fit and start playing alright in the next few weeks (Ok, less likely)? Barcelona are the better side, and I'd back them to win, but I backed them to win vs Inter last year too and although they're a different side to Arsenal, the best team doesn't win all the time.

We'll see what happens, but you'd hope Arsenal learnt a lot from last year and will try and make it a decent contest. I reckon there will be a lot of goals and Barcelona will go through, but I think Arsenal can get at their defence. If Walcott can give them a nightmare for half an hour, you'd hope a fit Cesc/Arshavin/RvP/Nasri would be able to put something together. They can be exposed down the flanks.
 
They should get beaten if they play their normal game, because Barcelona will just have too much time and space.

I have a feeling they won't get thrashed necessarily (in terms of a high amount of goals) but I wouldn't be surprised if they literally couldn't get the ball off Barcelona for long periods.
 
Everyone was writing Arsenal off before the draw was even made official (it seems the whole world and his wife expected the two to get tied together) so tbh it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if they go and get revenge and turn around last seasons results

As somewhat of a neutral I personally just hope everyone is fit for both sides so there can be no excuses either way but hey it's win win as far as I'm concerned, either Arsenal getting battered home and away like last season or they knock out the best team in the world right now and leave the competition wide open for everyone else

Right now I reckon 3-2 to Arsenal first leg, 3-1 Barca second leg although that is based on nothing whatsoever :p
 
What did United do in '99 that was anything like how Inter beat them? And they played in the group stages in '99 too? Barcelona didn't even make it out of the group.
 
I'm sorry but Barcelona are going to be in the final the question is who will meet them in the final I'm a juventus fan so I'm a neutral and honestly arsenal have no chance Wenger lies to himself wen he says arsenal ar afraid of nobody the final I would predict Barcelona vs real Madrid just cause how good mourinho is. I also think barca will win home and away against arsenal
 
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