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Poll: Will you be buying a Radeon VII?

Discussion in 'Graphics Cards' started by Gregster, Jan 10, 2019.

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Will you be buying a Radeon VII?

  1. Yes

    8.5%
  2. No

    50.0%
  3. Will wait for more info on pricing/performance

    41.5%
  1. Gregster

    Caporegime

    Joined: Sep 24, 2008

    Posts: 37,487

    Location: Essex innit!

    Curious really and interested in those who will or will not purchase and for what reason. I thought it was a $100 cheaper than a 2080 but since been told otherwise, so this makes me think of who will be buying and for what reason or vice versa.

    I will ask for a poll.
     
  2. gbgt2

    Gangster

    Joined: Oct 18, 2011

    Posts: 228

    16GB VRAM would be a reason I guess (other than just preferring the red team)
     
  3. LePhuronn

    Mobster

    Joined: Sep 26, 2010

    Posts: 2,948

    Location: Stoke-on-Trent

    No. but primarily because of finances. I'm not buying any card for £650+

    If I was in the market for a graphics card at this performance level, the Radeon 7 would need to be significantly cheaper than the 2080 to offset the RTX potential. If raster performance between the Radeon 7 and the 2080 is the same at £650-700, then another £50 is neither here nor there to take a punt of getting half-decent ray tracing and DLSS. I wouldn't take that punt if it cost me £100 or £150 to do so.

    This is the argument I've been making to those who dismissed the leaked Navi prices as unrealistic saying that AMD can, should and will only undercut the equivalent RTX by a couple of quid because that's the expectation.

    My eye is on the RX 3080 if the leaks are even remotely accurate.
     
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  4. RJC

    Don

    Joined: May 29, 2005

    Posts: 28,141

    Location: Kent

    Poll added as requested.
     
  5. Tom B

    Hitman

    Joined: Oct 20, 2007

    Posts: 687

    Possibly. If it's £600, definitely. £650, maybe. £700 nope.

    However, I use Linux a lot of the time and in a lot of ways the AMD Linux driver is just better (Proper wayland support, open source, nvidia issues that require often performance impacting workarounds to fix things like screen tearing. My GPU performance suffers after I put the machine to sleep and I have to reboot it to get full performance back for who knows why). So for that reason I'd prefer an AMD GPU. However, if the performance isn't on par with the 2080 or it's £700 I'll wait and possibly get Navi if it's a cheap but fairly minor upgrade.
     
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  6. mnc fear

    Gangster

    Joined: Nov 29, 2009

    Posts: 437

    I think if they priced it at £549 they would have really made it far more appealing Gregster

    Things have gone silly where £1200 Graphics card are now acceptable & Charging £699 for a card that the performance could be matched by a competitor Two years ago doesnt make sense

    If it was ground Breaking & £699 & offered Value then I would consider it but everything has to have justification for me to purchase

    Will be missing this out & sticking with my £299 Black Friday Vega 56 which had the same Games free in the Bundle

    They have somehow managed to make the RTX 2080 look better than it did two Days ago

    Even OCUK put their prices back up as soon as the price was announced on the RX 580, Vega 56 in the January Sale
     
  7. ltron

    Wise Guy

    Joined: Aug 30, 2014

    Posts: 1,065

    No, unfortunately it's overpriced. It's basically a 1080 Ti at best with a bit more VRAM released two years later at MSRP. I want to switch to AMD due Nvidia's behaviour but come on!
     
  8. Gregster

    Caporegime

    Joined: Sep 24, 2008

    Posts: 37,487

    Location: Essex innit!

    Thanks :)
     
  9. tamzzy

    Sgarrista

    Joined: May 26, 2012

    Posts: 7,769

    not unless it's double the performance of a 1080ti.

    i went 7950 -> 7990 (quadfire briefly) -> 1080ti.
    needs the price/perf to match...and none of the current crop of GPUs do...waaaaay overpriced.
     
  10. shankly1985

    Capodecina

    Joined: Nov 25, 2011

    Posts: 18,568

    Location: The KOP

    Yes but not right away, baby on the way so can't just go buying £700 GPUs haaa
    Plus tbh at £700 is abit over my max budget I willing to pay for a GPU at £500

    Still life in Vega 64 am sure Resident evil 2 will run great .
     
  11. Martini1991

    Caporegime

    Joined: Sep 18, 2009

    Posts: 26,176

    Location: Dormanstown.

    If it had replaced my V64 at the same price point I bought it for, then yes. I don't think that's an unreasonable expectation.

    At the moment it's a solid miss.

    I'm wanting to go for AMD 3XXX CPU flagship and X570 motherboard, so hoping to buy a Vega 7nm then depending on price, but I feel my Vega 64 will last until 2020 easy.
     
  12. JediFragger

    Capodecina

    Joined: Oct 18, 2002

    Posts: 20,096

    Location: Stoke-on-Trent

    The *only* way I'd be interested is that if it absolutely destroyed everything in Division 2 (AMD game) then I might have gone nuts and picked up a Rad7 along with that cray-cray 43" Asus 4k Freesync 2 monitor that's coming out ;) :D
     
  13. Kaapstad

    Man of Honour

    Joined: May 21, 2012

    Posts: 27,550

    Location: Dalek flagship

    No

    HBM2 adds to the cost and throttles 1080p/1440p performance. Yes HBM2 would be good at 2160p but the card does not have the raw performance to compete against a 2080 Ti.

    8gb or 12gb of GDDR6 would have been better for a gaming card.
     
  14. muon

    Capodecina

    Joined: Nov 8, 2006

    Posts: 17,228

    Location: London

    If they can bring out an 8GB version for £100 less.

    They've probably already bought a lot of HBM2 memory.
     
  15. JediFragger

    Capodecina

    Joined: Oct 18, 2002

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    Location: Stoke-on-Trent

    Tbf it's circa-$500 less.

    This card is a low-volume part, made for the AMD rabid fans only imo and will serve them well :)
     
  16. henson0115

    Hitman

    Joined: Dec 6, 2013

    Posts: 966

    Location: Nottingham

    to much money to spend on a gpu for me.
     
  17. Shaz12

    Gangster

    Joined: Apr 25, 2017

    Posts: 271

    I would if they had released back in November. If it was 2080ti performance, I would have sold my 2080 and got it.
     
  18. Legion

    Wise Guy

    Joined: Oct 19, 2002

    Posts: 1,940

    Location: Lancashire

    They are cut Radeon Instincts that didn't make the grade for full fat workstation cards. That makes them a bargain for a "cheaper" workstation / compute card.
    From a gamers perspective it's just a stop gap card on the way to Arcturus, they had to put out something and making use of salvaged RI cards is by no means a bad move.

    There are some really good quality Freesync 2 screens with people wanting more than V64 than to drive them with, it also fills that gap up nicely for them.
     
  19. Twyst

    Gangster

    Joined: Aug 17, 2017

    Posts: 142

    It's not much better than my current Vega64 LC.
    I'm betting it will surely be lower as it's on air as well ;)

    So no reason to upgrade yet. Plently of life left in my current card :)
     
  20. Chrisc

    Hitman

    Joined: Jun 29, 2016

    Posts: 560

    Location: Up Norf

    Its above my £500 threshold for a GPU, if there is an 8gb parter card version id be right in there