Winston Churchill was never prime minster

NH786 said:
Luckily a lot of people are wising up to how evil and racist he really was.
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I mean, the guy was born in the 1800s, EVERYBODY born prior to 1900 (and a depressingly large amount born after too) was a racist and in most cases also a homophobe and misogynist too. I wonder if the people ranting about him have burned any pictures they have of their great grandparents as they will be in the same boat.

This is the big problem with judging historical figures by the moral context of today, pretty much every single statue erected before the year 2000 including Nelson's column represents either a slaver or a racist or a misogynist or a transphobe or a homophobe, should we pull them all down?
 
montymint said:
Chances are people were messing with wikipedia / other sites that google scrapes the images and info from. Or as it's been said, google were changing what they were citing - I mean the image comes from sco.wikipedia rather than en.wikipedia
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I agree, that there certainly is a very logical answer to it. As you stated above, as one possibility.
 
Surveyor said:
You seem to have dismissed the unexciting technical reasons this could happen so your evidence that one or more of these groups infiltrated Google to remove reference to Winston Churchill is what?
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You know what I mean, the mainstream media and tech companies such as Google, and many other powerful influencers, generally support the radical left.

Conservative tweets being censored, conservative commentators banned from social media etc.

They control the cultural level but generally not the establishment level. So something like smearing or banning images of Churchill is right up their street as it gives them a sense of power and authority.
 
ubersonic said:
I mean, the guy was born in the 1800s, EVERYBODY born prior to 1900 (and a depressingly large amount born after too) was a racist and in most cases also a homophobe and misogynist too. I wonder if the people ranting about him have burned any pictures they have of their great grandparents as they will be in the same boat.

This is the big problem with judging historical figures by the moral context of today, pretty much every single statue erected before the year 2000 including Nelson's column represents either a slaver or a racist or a misogynist or a transphobe or a homophobe, should we pull them all down?
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Homosexually was a crime in those days it's hardly surprising the majority were against i

The majority then like now are law abiding citizens
 
Welp, you can already see the direction this thread is headed. It will be a spill over from the statues thread that was deleted in speaker's corner.
 
ubersonic said:
Considering that image/info comes from Wikipedia, and people can and do edit Wikipedia nefariously it's not that far fetched an idea.
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Except of course, a fifteen-second check of Bing would have revealed that this wasn't the case, because their thumbnail (also apparently sourced from Wikipedia) was fine. I know because I actually did so early this morning after seeing this talked about in the statues thread.
Hardly a concerted effort to tell us that we've always been at war Eastasia.
 
ubersonic said:
I mean, the guy was born in the 1800s, EVERYBODY born prior to 1900 (and a depressingly large amount born after too) was a racist and in most cases also a homophobe and misogynist too. I wonder if the people ranting about him have burned any pictures they have of their great grandparents as they will be in the same boat.

This is the big problem with judging historical figures by the moral context of today, pretty much every single statue erected before the year 2000 including Nelson's column represents either a slaver or a racist or a misogynist or a transphobe or a homophobe, should we pull them all down?
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Indeed.
We will be judged by our kids in future

How could they eat meat? Tear it down
How could they ruin the planet like that?tear it down.
 
Conscript said:
Except of course, a fifteen-second check of Bing would have revealed that this wasn't the case, because their thumbnail (also apparently sourced from Wikipedia) was fine. I know because I actually did so early this morning after seeing this talked about in the statues thread.
Hardly a concerted effort to tell us that we've always been at war Eastasia.
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They link to a different wiki to google (thus a different photo), so you are probably right in your earlier assertations.
 
jsmoke said:
You know what I mean, the mainstream media and tech companies such as Google, and many other powerful influencers, generally support the radical left.

Conservative tweets being censored, conservative commentators banned from social media etc.

They control the cultural level but generally not the establishment level. So something like smearing or banning images of Churchill is right up their street as it gives them a sense of power and authority.
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I almost said something very similar to this and there is a part of me that thinks this to.
I reckon it was someone messing around with the data and image that google pulls its information from.
Now what the person messing around data intentions are??? Who knows, was it because it seems to be a huge sparking point here at the moment and they where adding to it? Was a kid doing it for a laugh? Who knows? Are we all jumping to assumptions at the moment possibly. The world is a very mad place at the moment.
 
Google have said it was an error but as in previous cases similar to this it was probably a rogue employee, this is the problem with internet censorship most of the companies are based in areas like California where flying the hammer and sickle and burning the stars and stripes is fashionable, so the censorship goes all one way because those with the delete button have a particular ideology. As I understand it companies like Google and Microsoft have also helped the Chinese government implement their digital systems of oppression whilst at the same time here in the west they act like champions of the oppressed and these are the companies people online are looking up to to provide and enforce moral guidance.
 
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mmj_uk said:
Google have said it was an error but as in previous cases similar to this it was probably a rogue employee, this is the problem with internet censorship most of the companies are based in areas like California where flying the hammer and sickle and burning the stars and stripes is fashionable, so the censorship goes all one way because those with the delete button have a particular ideology. As I understand it companies like Google and Microsoft have also helped the Chinese government implement their digital systems of oppression whilst at the same time here in the west they act like champions of the oppressed and these are the companies people online are looking up to to provide and enforce moral guidance.
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I'm not sure what the most incredible part of this post is - the leaps of imagination required to construct a conspiracy whereby someone thinks they can censor out one of the most prominent historical figures in recent history simply by removing a thumbnail, or the fact that you managed to, for the first time in ages, get through a whole post without referencing "The Left (TM)"or" leftists" directly. This must be a first for you. :D
 
Ayahuasca said:
Welp, you can already see the direction this thread is headed. It will be a spill over from the statues thread that was deleted in speaker's corner.
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It was deleted because of one particular poster (we all know who) having a deranged meltdown and spamming the thread with junk into the early hours. i just hope he's having a little "holiday"
 
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