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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by thenewoc, 23 Jun 2021.

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  1. Dis86

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    Everything I've seen showed it just as being unpleasant but definitely not racist.
     
  2. R.P.L

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    Sure.
     
  3. JRS

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  4. Freakbro

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    Not sure what that has to do with anything, they were good enought to be part of the international squad, how and when they are used is down to the manager not them.

    And it's not like it's incompetence to not score a penalty, just looked and the scoring rate of the entire Euro championship from 1960 to 2016 from penalties is 74%. It's in the strikers favour but it's far far from a foregone conclusion. Misses happen, saves happen, mistakes happen, just because they are an overpaid footballer doesn't mean they aren't fallible.

    Honestly to vent abuse, racial or not, at a footballer for missing a penalty is pretty pathetic.
     
  5. Nitefly

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    I had a look for this myself. As far as I could tell it was something along the lines of “**** Saka” and “Bar Steward”.

    My initial reaction to that (if that was indeed what was said) was one of mild frustration, as it was ‘championed’ as being a bombastic example of racism when, perhaps, it wasn’t. On the other hand, the targeting of the mural could have been racist even if racist language wasn’t used.

    Reflecting on this some more, to dwell on my annoyance would be to miss the bigger picture. There has been unpleasant racist remarks made on social media, which are not socially acceptable and the people who have made those comments should be ashamed of themselves. Clearly, there is still an issue with racism in their country if comments like that are still being made.

    So I think the reaction to the racism in the media is correct, even if defacing the mural has been brought into it incidentally. Defacing the mural was a pretty ****y thing to do regardless.

    Relatively, it is a privilege to feel ‘bored’ at the purported overexposure of social justice issues in the media, compared to the agonising tedium of actually being treated poorly as a result of racism.
     
  6. Roar87

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    People don't support "taking a knee", they associate it with BLM, BLM has a lot of negative connotations for a lot of people. They were responsible for wide spread looting and vandalism in the US last year, their founder was a Marxist, they are using a "Raised Fist" which has strong links to Communist parties from the 1930's for example. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roter_Frontkämpferbund

    No one is going to boo something positive to do with anti-racism in football like the Standing up to Racism Campaign the Premier league did. This is just an attempt to force people into accepting a political position they don't agree with.
     
  7. Dis86

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    No, but actually getting the shot on target is something any competent Sunday league player can do, nevermind a supposedly world class player.
    Rashford did it all himself. He mucked about with his run up, tried to be Johnny big balls and completely screwed up. The other 2 penalties were just poor but his was appalling and entirely controllable.
     
  8. VincentHanna

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    Yeah I'm sure all those fans booing were just making a political point being worried about Marxism and communism.
     
  9. Dis86

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    No, they're there to watch a game though, not ham-fisted political statements.
     
  10. JRS

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    Length of match - 90 minutes plus extras
    Length of "ham-fisted political statements" - a few seconds

    Yes, I can certainly see why it's such a big problem for these people :rolleyes:
     
  11. Nasher

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    BLM is a political movement and it's making a few people very rich.

    The knee thing is their symbol. They have sort of succeded in brainwashing people via it.
     
  12. Dis86

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    They don't pay to be subjected to it. The same way some people boo when there's a pitch invader.

    I've paid money, I don't want to watch that crap. If these overpaid millionaires want to do it, they can do it in their own time.

    :rolleyes:
     
  13. Freakbro

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    @Dis86 you're just showing your privilege ;)
     
  14. FishFluff

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    The players are trying to play a game though, not get racially abused by the fans.
     
  15. Dis86

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    And they did play the game, the racial abuse didn't interrupt it or waste any of their time.
     
  16. FishFluff

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    On this occasion. Racism directed at the players is an ongoing thing, as are their protests. It's extraordinary to me that you take issue with something that takes up literally 2 seconds of the match.
     
  17. JRS

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    If you're so exercised about the players being "overpaid millionaires" then why are you even watching? Just change the channel/don't go to matches :confused:

    ***edit***

    Not gonna link to it due to the language, but Tom Walker's latest Jonathan Pie vid is bang on...
     
  18. Ahleckz

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    Players - us taking a knee is to highlight racism.
    Gammons - we know better, it’s about Marxism and communism. I mean, I’ve got a black friend but…

    I’m excited to see the gammons get triggered - DaTs RaYsIsT
     
  19. omnomnom

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    Were they around in the sixties when taking the knee was or do you ignore that to suit your agenda?
     
  20. MikeTheNative

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    I do find it rather funny the section of people who complain about the younger generations bee too sensitive and get triggered at everything. Then they go have a absolute meltdown over this. lol
     
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