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[Akagi]

It won't arise at all because I won't be on the path

You'll just be inconveniencing people with cars instead.

If there is a cycle path, damn well use it. It was put there for a reason... I expect it was because it was noted that the road is often used by cyclists, and they were at risk because of insufficient space to pass safely/impatient drivers etc. If you get knocked off when you're not using the designated path provided for you, you should be held at least partially accountable imho.

 

[George Hincapie]

You'll just be inconveniencing people with cars instead.

No, I'll be legally using the road as I am allowed to

 

[Akagi]

No, I'll be legally using the road as I am allowed to

Yes but why would you do that when you can use a cycle path?

Anyway we are going off topic here I suppose...

 

[snowdog]

I've probably had my licence longer than you've been alive.

Because me cycling magnificently at 25 MPH on a cycle path where little Timmy is out with his family cycling at 1 MPH isn't going to end in tears at all is it?

You're opinions are of someone who is barely on the road driving a motorised vehicle, cyclists are a plague ( in big cities anyhow), and pretty much everyone who drives a couple of hours a day would probably think the same. Simply because there is nearly no enforcement on the laws and the reasons I named before, going against traffic and through reds is widespread from cyclists. Not to mention the statistics show nearly half the cyclists under a certain age are using a mobile phone when riding or headphones.

At 25 MPH you're slowing car traffic down yes.

Anything under 30 mph should be on a cycle path and stay away from fast traffic imho. Opinions differ on the matter here in the NL, some towns still allow yellow plated ( 30 mph) mopeds on cycle paths, a lot don't. Some even complain about the growing number of e-bikes going fast and there have been talks about maximum speed limits for cyclists from some stupid organisations.

No, I'll be legally using the road as I am allowed to

Typical mistake from politicians who have no clue imho. Slow traffic should be separated from fast traffic. Cycle paths should be mandatory to use like here.

 

[Edinho]

You'll just be inconveniencing people with cars instead.

If there is a cycle path, damn well use it. It was put there for a reason... I expect it was because it was noted that the road is often used by cyclists, and they were at risk because of insufficient space to pass safely/impatient drivers etc. If you get knocked off when you're not using the designated path provided for you, you should be held at least partially accountable imho.

It doesn't matter what YOU think. The highway code and the law says that cycle lanes are not compulsory if they are provided. You run someone over regardless of a cycle lane or not you are at fault.

 

[Christmas themed thank]

I saw that. I think he just needed a hug

YES that's the video. Link me?

 

[Akagi]

You run someone over regardless of a cycle lane or not you are at fault.

Unless of course they pulled some stupid and totally unpredictable maneuver which caused the collision... Something which I see cyclists doing an awful lot.

The favourite around here seems to be zooming out of a side road directly in front of cars causing the driver to have to brake hard and/or swerve to avoid hitting them.

 

[Edinho]

Unless of course they pulled some stupid and totally unpredictable maneuver which caused the collision... Something which I see cyclists doing an awful lot.

The favourite around here seems to be zooming out of a side road directly in front of cars causing the driver to have to brake hard and/or swerve to avoid hitting them.

Come on. Bikes pulling out without looking. What a bit like what people on four wheels do? No they don't do that do they?

 

[arknor]

Because me cycling magnificently at 25 MPH on a cycle path where little Timmy is out with his family cycling at 1 MPH isn't going to end in tears at all is it?

I know LOL

peds don't respect the cycle lanes people happily walk 5 abreast a long them and won't move even if you use the bell.

oh and lets not forget you get told of by pedestrians all the time when the cycle path is only marked by a sign such as outside the newcastle football ground where some fan on match day not looking where his fat arse was going had a go at me I pointed to the sign and told him to **** off lol ( I stopped in front of him because there was no way past, he wasn't looking where he was walking and almost walked into my bike then tried to blame me for being on the pavement...)

much less hassle to just cycle on the roads and you aren't slowing down to rejoin the road/join a cycle path every 5 minutes.

expecting a cyclist to use the cycle paths is like expecting motorists to use one way streets only it makes no sense the infrastructure is not there

cycling paths for the most part don't even cover the whole stretch of road only sections of it they are ridiculous

 

[George Hincapie]

You're opinions are of someone who is barely on the road driving a motorised vehicle, cyclists are a plague ( in big cities anyhow), and pretty much everyone who drives a couple of hours a day would probably think the same. Simply because there is nearly no enforcement on the laws and the reasons I named before, going against traffic and through reds is widespread from cyclists. Not to mention the statistics show nearly half the cyclists under a certain age are using a mobile phone when riding or headphones.

At 25 MPH you're slowing car traffic down yes.

Anything under 30 mph should be on a cycle path and stay away from fast traffic imho. Opinions differ on the matter here in the NL, some towns still allow yellow plated ( 30 mph) mopeds on cycle paths, a lot don't. Some even complain about the growing number of e-bikes going fast and there have been talks about maximum speed limits for cyclists from some stupid organisations.

Typical mistake from politicians who have no clue imho. Slow traffic should be separated from fast traffic. Cycle paths should be mandatory to use like here.

Yet the people who are anti-cyclist would treat a horse mounted rider with respect and plenty of room. Interesting double standards.

 

[Akagi]

Come on. Bikes pulling out without looking. What a bit like what people on four wheels do? No they don't do that do they?

Well firstly I never claimed that car drivers never pull out without looking, and secondly that is totally different. These people are looking and aware that there is a stream of traffic, and yet they seem to think it is perfectly OK to pull out of a side road and into the gutter of the road on the inside of passing cars.

I've also seen them ride off of the pavement into the road in front of traffic with and without looking before, as if there is nothing wrong with it.

I'm not saying that all cyclists are *********, I'm saying that most of the cyclists that I encounter seem to do stupid things like this. There are also some very good and considerate cyclists which I encounter, but nowhere near as many.

Yet the people who are anti-cyclist would treat a horse mounted rider with respect and plenty of room. Interesting double standards.

Completely different situations. Did you seriously just try and use that argument?

Those damn horse riders, galloping through our cities, running through red lights, ignoring the designated horse lanes, squeezing down small gaps, riding out in front of people. They are a scourge!

Horse riders on roads are few and far between. Every single one I encounter is cautious and considerate and they ALL thank you when you slow down to pass. Slowing to pass horse riders is mostly so that you don't frighten the horse. Most of them move into a gateway or such to let traffic pass if they can as well.

 

[OpenToSuggestions]

Cyclists are not obliged to use cycle paths. I refuse to use them. I am legally allowed to use the road so I will.

This seems like madness.
Cycling without buses and lorries passing you makes cycling perfect.
It seriously reduces your chances of being mangled under a car/bus/lorry.
Just think one day should you have an accident on the road (hope you never do!) and there was a cycle path, you will be facepalming big time.

Not worth breaking your leg over being righteous .

 

[arknor]

This seems like madness.
Cycling without buses and lorries passing you makes cycling perfect.
It seriously reduces your chances of being mangled under a car/bus/lorry.
Just think one day should you have an accident on the road (hope you never do!) and there was a cycle path, you will be facepalming big time.

Not worth breaking your leg over being righteous .

your lucky if 20% of most journeys have a cycle path that's why people don't use them they are pointless it's just constantly leaving and joining a road

 

[snowdog]

Yet the people who are anti-cyclist would treat a horse mounted rider with respect and plenty of room. Interesting double standards.

Horses do not belong on the road but on horse paths.

It's Western Europe not Bulgaria/Romania.

anti-cyclist

I'm not anti cyclist, I find it hard understand why you'd want to be between cars when you have cycle paths, but indeed, I have no idea how rubbish or good the paths are in the UK. I do dislike cyclists who are willingly blocking fast traffic though.

 

[George Hincapie]

Horses do not belong on the road but on horse paths.

It's Western Europe not Bulgaria/Romania.


I'm not anti cyclist, I find it hard understand why you'd want to be between cars when you have cycle paths, but indeed, I have no idea how rubbish or good the paths are in the UK. I do dislike cyclists who are willingly blocking fast traffic though.

Horse paths? Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!

Also, you do recognise that very few rural roads have cycle paths?

 

[Akagi]

I am certain that he means, just as I mean, that you should use cycle paths when there is one to use. We aren't suggesting that you magic one out of thin air when there isn't one.......

 

[Christmas themed thank]

I would not want to be a cyclist in London.

 

[arknor]

Horses do not belong on the road but on horse paths.

It's Western Europe not Bulgaria/Romania.


I'm not anti cyclist, I find it hard understand why you'd want to be between cars when you have cycle paths, but indeed, I have no idea how rubbish or good the paths are in the UK. I do dislike cyclists who are willingly blocking fast traffic though.

cyclists are taught not to cycle right next to the kerb because it increases your risk of an accident as impatient motorists try to squeeze past leaving you absolutely no room at all, slightly wiggle to the side in a gust of wind and you are dead.

You run the risk of your pedal banging off the kerb and sending you flat into the road, it's where all the crap gathers so it's puncture hell.

highway code says you should leave the same space as if you were over taking a car very few people actually do this.

on some roads you just have to hog a lane

Some roads are horrible and barely wide enough for each lane, it would be nice to cycle on the pavement on these, your not allowed too so no choice but to be a 20mph road block

 

[Gixer]

You'll just be inconveniencing people with cars instead.

And so the loop begins. Some cyclists will use the available cycle paths and share with pedestrians and some cyclists will use the road and share with motorised transport. All perfectly legal and it is the obligation of everyone to keep everyone else safe as well as themselves.

If you get knocked off when you're not using the designated path provided for you, you should be held at least partially accountable imho.

Most ridiculous comment you've come out with so far! The person who is accountable for the accident, be it cyclist or driver is the accountable person. You can't simply say because a cyclist was 'there', which is totally legal, it is partly their fault. Still your comment gave me a good chuckle

 

[Dunks]

With the state of cycle paths in this country you're more likely to pull a crazy maneuver when cycling in them due to idiots opening doors, large debris and wheel ruining potholes in the side of the road where the cycle lanes are.