X570 Chipset Fan and why I'm waiting for X670

sadbuttrue · 2 Mar 2020 at 10:33

Reading various user reviews it seems the chipset fans are averaging 55-60c in a brand new system that has no degradation or dust buildup, with current ambient temps 15c lower than the height of summer. Considering the fans kick in at 60c it won't be long before the 0rpm "silent" mode disappears for most users.

The fan itself is rated for 60,000 hours or 7 years when run 24/7. My current PC has been running 24/7 for 8 years and its replacement is expected to last just as long. In that time I've had to replace most of the fans to retain a quiet system.

A not so bold prediction - Every summer for the next 5 years this forum will be flooded with complaints about the X570 Chipset Fan.

opethdisciple · 2 Mar 2020 at 11:28

I hardly run my PC in the summer anyway. My PC is in a loft conversion so it's like a sauna most often.

ik9000 · 2 Mar 2020 at 11:30

Mine is 49C and no fan spin whatsoever in a room ambient 20C. I've then adjusted the fan profile to cause it to come on and it is not that loud. Obviously I turned it back off. If it gets really bad I'll buy a waterblock for it.

~>Dg<~ · 2 Mar 2020 at 11:32

the answer is dont buy a x570 board. if you need to buy now just get a 4 series board or wait for the new boards which i think wont have the fans. as its already been shown they arent needed and a decent heatsink can even do a better job than the fan. i actually think the reason they added the fan was just a excuse for the new x570 selling point. to make em seem different. its not needed been proved it isnt. now the mobo manufacturers know people are not buying because of the fan im sure they wont be on the newer boards that will release with the 4000s. fingers crossed.

maklabouhlel · 2 Mar 2020 at 12:55

The chipset fan is what's put me off going with X570. I remember the days when the nForce4 SLI chipset had a fan that caused nothing but problems.

Joxeon · 2 Mar 2020 at 13:18

~>Dg<~ said:
the answer is dont buy a x570 board.

This,

X470 and even B450 all provide decent alternatives especially if you dont need the faster data transfers that PCIE gen4 nvme brings and it will probably be 8 years before even the top end GPUs are saturating PCIE3 as only they have only just begun to saturate PCIE2.

opethdisciple · 2 Mar 2020 at 14:44

Joxeon said:
This,

X470 and even B450 all provide decent alternatives especially if you dont need the faster data transfers that PCIE gen4 nvme brings and it will probably be 8 years before even the top end GPUs are saturating PCIE3 as only they have only just begun to saturate PCIE2.

I've been mulling over to buy a new mobo. And then whether it's the B450 Tomahawk Max or the x570 Auros Elite. I was leaning towards the Elite simply for the Pcie4.

I need convincing that Pcie4 isn't worth the extra £80. I've read the articles and yes I know right now it makes no difference but with next gen GPUs?

Skynet5 · 2 Mar 2020 at 15:55

Build quality of the auros master is fantastic.

I was worried about the fan too. But end of the day it's easy to mod if needs be. Plus I reckon you could get replacements easily too.

Only heard it come on a few times on boot. Shame my aorus 1080ti sits right on top of it though.

sadbuttrue · 2 Mar 2020 at 17:42

I'd like to build a high-end system now and have it serve me for about 8 years. That means slotting in a 4950x when they are cheap next year. A 4 series board is likely to struggle and/or have issues with that chip.

ik9000 · 2 Mar 2020 at 18:21

ditto. whereas the top end x570 boards will cope just fine. The vrms have more than enough grunt to cope.

Joxeon · 2 Mar 2020 at 18:32

sadbuttrue said:
I'd like to build a high-end system now and have it serve me for about 8 years. That means slotting in a 4950x when they are cheap next year. A 4 series board is likely to struggle and/or have issues with that chip.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J69aiJJEHzQ

3950x tested in b450 boards.

EsaT · 2 Mar 2020 at 20:44

sadbuttrue said:
A not so bold prediction - Every summer for the next 5 years this forum will be flooded with complaints about the X570 Chipset Fan.

Most likely in those boards designed by marketroids with chipset coolers under graphics cards.
Those with properly designed chipset coolers farther from graphics card don't have to ramp up fan speeds that much and should have lowered fan wear down rates.

maklabouhlel said:
I remember the days when the nForce4 SLI chipset had a fan that caused nothing but problems.

Don't forget similar replacement HSF gotten from Asus support wearing down equally fast.

hyperseven · 2 Mar 2020 at 23:21

EsaT said:
Most likely in those boards designed by marketroids with chipset coolers under graphics cards.
Those with properly designed chipset coolers farther from graphics card don't have to ramp up fan speeds that much and should have lowered fan wear down rates.

Don't forget similar replacement HSF gotten from Asus support wearing down equally fast.

Is marketroids your favourite word? You do seem to use it an awful lot

EsaT · 3 Mar 2020 at 16:59

hyperseven said:
Is marketroids your favourite word? You do seem to use it an awful lot

Don't think it's "politically correct" to call them with real words describing accurately what they are...

Skynet5 · 5 Mar 2020 at 23:08

EsaT said:
Don't think it's "politically correct" to call them with real words describing accurately what they are...

Lol

I've inspected the fan on the master. Easy to remove and replace. Child's play.

Agreed I shouldn't have to do it though, poor layout.

Fan doesn't seem to come on though.

Last mobo I almost bought was the x79 extreme. Had a fan. No general complaints as far as I'm aware.

ik9000 · 5 Mar 2020 at 23:53

lnoton said:
Lol

I've inspected the fan on the master. Easy to remove and replace. Child's play.

Agreed I shouldn't have to do it though, poor layout.

Fan doesn't seem to come on though.

Last mobo I almost bought was the x79 extreme. Had a fan. No general complaints as far as I'm aware.

There is definitely a waterblock already available for the master's chipset. Hopefully other manufacturers' boards get similar. Note though it limits the graphics card size if you do use the waterblock as they weren't very kind with the hose positioning and it is still close to the GPU

pandem0nium · 6 Mar 2020 at 09:33

I won't be buying X570 for the same reason. I like a quiet system and am quite sensitive to the noise small fans make.
That and the cost of the boards has really gone up. When Ryzen was launched it was said that boards should be cheaper because of the SOC nature of the CPU.

B550 should suit the needs of most without the need for chipset fans. If it ever sees the light of day.

EsaT · 6 Mar 2020 at 09:55

lnoton said:
I've inspected the fan on the master. Easy to remove and replace. Child's play.

Agreed I shouldn't have to do it though, poor layout.

I had enough of swapping badly designed tiny chipset coolers in Nvidia chipset Asus board for Athlon.
After second HSF gotten from Asus support basically failing even faster than original bought passive (IIRC Zalman) heatsink.
Those weren't even real heatsinks but tiny pieces of aluminium basically relying fan's airflow to have any kind cooling power.

EsaT · 6 Mar 2020 at 09:58

pandem0nium said:
That and the cost of the boards has really gone up. When Ryzen was launched it was said that boards should be cheaper because of the SOC nature of the CPU.

Stronger VRMs add cost and also PCIe v4 has higher design quality requirements.
Though compared to good VRM X470 boards prices aren't really that much higher.

But PCIe v5 hyped by some will be even more demanding.
So if anything prices of high end boards will keep going up.

ik9000 · 6 Mar 2020 at 10:43

There is a real prospect we might be on pcie6 without v5 ever really making the market. If it does then it could be short-lived