X570 to X870 upgrade suggestions HELP!!

[DV2FOX]

Or slightly below X870

I own the following. Also Europe/Spain user

-Tower: Be quiet! DARK BASE PRO 901 (Important fact later) with 5 fans (1 rear exhaust, 2 top exhaust, 2 front intake)
-ASUS X570 TUF GAMING PLUS
-RYZEN 5800X3D
-Brand new Noctua NH-U12A Chromax Black
-Crucial BALLISTIX 2x16GB DDR4 RAM (Good profile size and heatsink)
-GIGABYTE RTX 4070 Super
-CORSAIR 1200W PSU SHIFT (It was cheap and has the special GPU cables)

My mobo has gotten some deep buzzing/crrrrrk electrical noises from the CPU area (front and behind. It's NOT the GPU since it's doing NOTHING) and it's worrying me but also it's hurting my ears (Tinnitus victim, don't want it to become even worse), besides of the motherboard had a small accident and well, might be the reason among other things, and i don't want it to burn down the components etc (And it's getting a bit old)

So i was thinking of upgrading just the mobo, CPU and RAM (Yes, even with the crisis) and i need guidance to what'd be the best SAFE picks while following these rules:

Main uses: (1080p monitor actually but might go 2K or even 4K one day, but 2K mainly for quality/performance balance)

-Productivity: Adobe Photoshop/illustrator/Premiere, CLIP STUDIO PAINT, Paint Tool SAI 2, Handbrake

-Gaming: Hardcore requirement games on Ultra (Single player stories, NO MOBA nor online ones) and also video capture 1080p (Could be doing 2K/4K soon so yeah, important). So +60FPS always

-AM5 X870 full ATX size or better
-2x16GB DDR5 RAM WITH HEATSINK (Nothing crazy big, NO RGB). Crucial brand if possible. Don't trust CORSAIR much (BSOD reports)
-RYZEN 7000 or 9000 series with 8 or more cores for the CPU (Keep in mind the GPU to prevent bottleneck and the above cooler i'll be using. Not going to upgrade the cooler!. Sure i'll need the important brackets to install it but you know..)

-At least 4 SATA ports and a maximum of 6 if possible (2 SSD, 1 HDD and 1 DVD drive)

-The motherboard must have TWO "USB A" 3.2 headers to connect the 2 tower's USB 3.2 cables to be able to use ALL 4 USB front ports from my tower, along a USB C 3.2 GEN 2 header for the tower's USB C port

-The back of the motherboard must have 2 high powered USB C ports (1 for the speakers to make use of their full power, the other for future use) and tons of USB A ports, latest gens etc if possible, along a properly working (Drivers sense) LAN 2,4 and 5Ghz (Not sure if 5Ghz only is backwards compatible but again i want to prevent many possible issues since, well, internet's used all the time)

-WiFi 6 or 7 (For the printer and other devices. I know 7 is only for W11 but if it's backwards compatible with W10 in WiFi 6 mode somehow then so be it.. Also future proof)

-Windows 10 compatible if possible (I don't want to install W11, and if i must uninstall my actual sytem's board's drivers first then install the new ones so be it, but i don't want to do a full install. NOPE!!!)

-NO COIL WHINE NOR BUZZING FROM THE CPU NOR VRM NOR ANYTHING. THAT IS MANDATORY!!

-NO DOCP/EXPO will be used. I had a Z170 that whenever i enabled EXPO a few days later it killed the motherboard SO NO, NO DOCP/EXPO!.I DON'T CARE IF THE PC DOESN'T GOES FULL POTENTIAL AS LONG AS IT MEANS

IT'S GOING SAFE!!. PERIOD!!. Mine has been going good with that turned off and it's doing great (minus the actual CPU part)

-BE ABLE TO DISABLE "Install Armoury Crate on boot up" OPTION IN BIOS

-Optional: Easy to reach GPU ejector (CPU cooler might be small but future AM5 offset might kill the purpose), same for easy installation for M.2/NVME SSDs and compatible with actualSDs of all kinds

-I'm new to this but RAM training must happen ONCE. If i can just let it train once then disable it to prevent future trainings after a boot THE BETTER. TIME IS CRUC

-MOST IMPORTANTLY: Need a SAFE MB+CPU+RAM COMBO that DOESN'T HAVE ANY FIRE/RANDOMLY DYING ISSUES THAT I'VE BEEN READING AROUND (AKA RYZEN 9000 + ASrock or whatever bad combo)

-Trustworthy brands: ASUS, GIGABYTE, MSI, etc, as long as they accomplish the USB/SATA ports parts above along the combo thing just above

While money's not an issue, i want to know what options for MB, CPU and RAM would you guys recommend



That's all for now. Thank you

 

[Craig_d1]

Or slightly below X870

I own the following. Also Europe/Spain user

-Tower: Be quiet! DARK BASE PRO 901 (Important fact later) with 5 fans (1 rear exhaust, 2 top exhaust, 2 front intake)
-ASUS X570 TUF GAMING PLUS
-RYZEN 5800X3D
-Brand new Noctua NH-U12A Chromax Black
-Crucial BALLISTIX 2x16GB DDR4 RAM (Good profile size and heatsink)
-GIGABYTE RTX 4070 Super
-CORSAIR 1200W PSU SHIFT (It was cheap and has the special GPU cables)

My mobo has gotten some deep buzzing/crrrrrk electrical noises from the CPU area (front and behind. It's NOT the GPU since it's doing NOTHING) and it's worrying me but also it's hurting my ears (Tinnitus victim, don't want it to become even worse), besides of the motherboard had a small accident and well, might be the reason among other things, and i don't want it to burn down the components etc (And it's getting a bit old)

So i was thinking of upgrading just the mobo, CPU and RAM (Yes, even with the crisis) and i need guidance to what'd be the best SAFE picks while following these rules:

Main uses: (1080p monitor actually but might go 2K or even 4K one day, but 2K mainly for quality/performance balance)

-Productivity: Adobe Photoshop/illustrator/Premiere, CLIP STUDIO PAINT, Paint Tool SAI 2, Handbrake

-Gaming: Hardcore requirement games on Ultra (Single player stories, NO MOBA nor online ones) and also video capture 1080p (Could be doing 2K/4K soon so yeah, important). So +60FPS always

-AM5 X870 full ATX size or better
-2x16GB DDR5 RAM WITH HEATSINK (Nothing crazy big, NO RGB). Crucial brand if possible. Don't trust CORSAIR much (BSOD reports)
-RYZEN 7000 or 9000 series with 8 or more cores for the CPU (Keep in mind the GPU to prevent bottleneck and the above cooler i'll be using. Not going to upgrade the cooler!. Sure i'll need the important brackets to install it but you know..)

-At least 4 SATA ports and a maximum of 6 if possible (2 SSD, 1 HDD and 1 DVD drive)

-The motherboard must have TWO "USB A" 3.2 headers to connect the 2 tower's USB 3.2 cables to be able to use ALL 4 USB front ports from my tower, along a USB C 3.2 GEN 2 header for the tower's USB C port

-The back of the motherboard must have 2 high powered USB C ports (1 for the speakers to make use of their full power, the other for future use) and tons of USB A ports, latest gens etc if possible, along a properly working (Drivers sense) LAN 2,4 and 5Ghz (Not sure if 5Ghz only is backwards compatible but again i want to prevent many possible issues since, well, internet's used all the time)

-WiFi 6 or 7 (For the printer and other devices. I know 7 is only for W11 but if it's backwards compatible with W10 in WiFi 6 mode somehow then so be it.. Also future proof)

-Windows 10 compatible if possible (I don't want to install W11, and if i must uninstall my actual sytem's board's drivers first then install the new ones so be it, but i don't want to do a full install. NOPE!!!)

-NO COIL WHINE NOR BUZZING FROM THE CPU NOR VRM NOR ANYTHING. THAT IS MANDATORY!!

-NO DOCP/EXPO will be used. I had a Z170 that whenever i enabled EXPO a few days later it killed the motherboard SO NO, NO DOCP/EXPO!.I DON'T CARE IF THE PC DOESN'T GOES FULL POTENTIAL AS LONG AS IT MEANS

IT'S GOING SAFE!!. PERIOD!!. Mine has been going good with that turned off and it's doing great (minus the actual CPU part)

-BE ABLE TO DISABLE "Install Armoury Crate on boot up" OPTION IN BIOS

-Optional: Easy to reach GPU ejector (CPU cooler might be small but future AM5 offset might kill the purpose), same for easy installation for M.2/NVME SSDs and compatible with actualSDs of all kinds

-I'm new to this but RAM training must happen ONCE. If i can just let it train once then disable it to prevent future trainings after a boot THE BETTER. TIME IS CRUC

-MOST IMPORTANTLY: Need a SAFE MB+CPU+RAM COMBO that DOESN'T HAVE ANY FIRE/RANDOMLY DYING ISSUES THAT I'VE BEEN READING AROUND (AKA RYZEN 9000 + ASrock or whatever bad combo)

-Trustworthy brands: ASUS, GIGABYTE, MSI, etc, as long as they accomplish the USB/SATA ports parts above along the combo thing just above

While money's not an issue, i want to know what options for MB, CPU and RAM would you guys recommend



That's all for now. Thank you

Well, if you want 'armoury crate', you're left with an Asus board then, as that's exclusive to Asus. Sorry to say asus quite pricey in uk

so, Asus Tuf Gaming X870e-Plus £309.95
rear io 2xusb4 (type c 40gbs)
2 usb 3.2 gen 2 10gbs
4 usb 3.2 gen 1 5gbs
4 usb 2.0
wifi 7, bluetooth 5.4, alc1220 sound
4xsata, 2.5gb lan

Asuis X870E-E £449.99
rear io has
2x usb4 type c 40gbd
1 x usb3.2 gen2x2 20gbs type c
10 usb 3.2 gen2 10gbs (9x type a, 1 x type c)
audio is alc4080
4x sata, 5gb lan
it'll have the digital error code display

I use the B850E-E which is £279
has 1 usb4 type c 40gbs
1 usb c 20gb 3.2 gen2
6 usb a 3.2 gen1 10gbs and 4 usb 2.0
wifi 7,4xsata, alc4080, digital error code, 4xsata and 5gb lan

if you want 5gb lan, then you need the strix board..if you don't need 2 usb4, then look at the b850e-e variant..it's basically a x870 except in the name really

ditch armory crate, and you open yourself up to other boards though

as you want safe, I'd get one with the error code display..has told me whats gone wrong with my boards in the past, and after boot, then just shows my cpy temp, which is currently 37degrees, with a 9800x3d and an arctic freezer 36 air cooler on it. running a 9070xt nitro with a corsair RM1000X shift. I do have 2x16gb corsair 6000c30 and 1x2gb sn850x as primary drive with a 4tb nm790 as my gaming drive
had zero issues with it so far

as you wont enable EXPO, then get a x3d cpu anyway..memory timings arent as important so you wont loose much performance at all running it at slower speeds in gaming...can't say the same for the photoshop etc , haven't looked that up
9850x3d has a higher clock speed than the standard 9800x3d for £20 more, so might as well get that, photoshop likes high clock cpu's
otherwide your splurging on a 9950x3d for the extra cores

if you like crucial ram, by all means, otherwise there's klevv 32gb 6000c30 for £299.99 available..if you want more than 32gb, crucial 6000C48 is available for £450 (that really is slow timing though

expo 6000 speed isn't that fast...these boards, exp the strix, can run 8000 speed...you don't actually benefit that much as the 6000 speed is running in a 1:1 ratio, whereas faster you go to a 2:1 ratio, so I wouldn't have a problem running expo personally...my memory training took less than 30seconds with my board
...none of this 10mins stuff

 

[Tetras]

-The back of the motherboard must have 2 high powered USB C ports (1 for the speakers to make use of their full power, the other for future use) and tons of USB A ports, latest gens etc if possible, along a properly working (Drivers sense) LAN 2,4 and 5Ghz (Not sure if 5Ghz only is backwards compatible but again i want to prevent many possible issues since, well, internet's used all the time)

Do you specifically want USB4, or no?

-NO DOCP/EXPO will be used. I had a Z170 that whenever i enabled EXPO a few days later it killed the motherboard SO NO, NO DOCP/EXPO!.I DON'T CARE IF THE PC DOESN'T GOES FULL POTENTIAL AS LONG AS IT MEANS

Crucial sell JEDEC RAM, the 6000 C48 kit mentioned above is technically a JEDEC kit, but I'm not sure how many boards support this speed "out of the box" with no manual config. It might just default to 5600 instead.

JEDEC kits are usually: 6000/C48, 5600/C46 or 4800/C40. They will have a rated voltage of 1.1v. Gaming memory will often default to 4800 without EXPO/XMP.

 

[sandys]

Can't really provide much input but I have been impressed with the features and stability of my Gigabyte board the x870e ai TOP although I appreciate it is a bit spendy, it has a cheaper B850 AI TOP variant that is most of the way there for half the price and its probably what I should have bought though I would loose the 40Gbps USB that I do use.

For me its the Dual 10Gb LAN these boards have that made them the choice for me as I can access my NAS at 20Gb but they would fulfill most of your requirements, LAN ports on motherboard are all Multigig, so these will do 1/2.5/5/10.

I think it is only a miss from your requirements on the 850 as it does not have dual usb 3 headers but your requirements do limit the board a little, if you don't need the full speed of usb 3 you can convert the other headers to take usb3 connector from case and run normal USB speeds for a couple of quid, or as a PCie card in the often unused x2/x4 bottom slot to add a connector, this will open up more motherboards.

Don't let a dodgy motherboard bios put you off using DCOP/EXPO etc, basically if someone is getting the basics wrong it could happen anywhere, you should be using these things without fear.

Memory training should only be a one time thing, or something that happens at a BIOS update, if it happens more then something is wrong with your system, either the board, any manual tweaking your have done or something connected to it, for example my non OE USB charger would send my laptop into memory training as it did not support the laptop properly.

Unfortunately You are on to a looser with the W10 requirements,W10 is a dead OS, the latest chips works better with the scheduler on W11 and most of the Wifi cards don't typically have W10 driver support.

 

[pastymuncher]

Personally I would just buy a new Z570/B450 motherboard as you can pick up something decent for £100-120 now and you already have the best AM4 cpu for gaming. I just cannot recommend paying these disgusting memory prices especially if you refuse to use Expo and you are stuck with slow memory speeds that will cripple any Ryzen cpu.