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X800GTO2 = silly gameplay ( UT only though? )

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This is a well weird one, that I have not yet solved.

First off, all my games except 2 play fairly well on this card, the oens that have issues are the UnReal Tournament ones... All my others seem to be fine.

Ok, UT2004 plays sort of ok, its a little bit jerky, but nothing that does my head in, however, when I try to display the FPS, Apparently, I have an FPS of well over 4 Million - Ok, cool... I can live with that HEHE

But seriously, the main problem is with UT Classic.

Its so jerky, that it is completely unplayable.

Its not in a kind of stop-start way either, because its more like a kind of warp-speed ahead kind of way... You might try to walk perhaps 100 yards, and you iwll take 5 steps and then all of a sudden, you are there!, with the first 5 steps beign at a normal pace, then you suddenly appear 100 yards away!

Facing worlds can be completed in under 30 seconds like this ( Providing you dont suddenly appear off the rock of course ) and Morpheous is completely unplayable as I have never been able to jump from one building to another without appearing half a mile away all the time, and its not good enough.

Kind of hoping it could be some patch, but the thing is, that it does not happen with the X1800 or the X1600 ( Mistake to buy that one ) and both those require patches for various apps.

I have swapped the X800 with the other 2, and also with nVidia cards as well, but it only ever happens with the X800, no other, no matter what PC I put it in, and even whether I am using XP32, 64 or 2KPro, so WTF?

Could it be my card isnt a good un? - Its never been clocked - never seen the need to, and I am running ..Oh? Erm, CAT 5.10.

Could have sworn I was on 6 . summat?

Ok, hang on... I will update the drivers and get back on this one...
 
Ok, I am downloading the 6.9 Cats.

I just checked the file versions on whats in there right now, and they are version 6.14.10.6320... Cant find *** installation of the CAT 6.9 so I am installing them anyway... I must have downloaded them on a different PC cos I know I got them.

Ok, they have just come, so I will install and play about and get back to you in a few...
 
Yeah, and dont I feel one too!

I think its cos I have been working on a few PCs lately all doing pretty much the same thing, I think I must have just missed on what I did with what and to what?

I got 5 ATI based PCs and 2 NV ones running right now. The missus is constantly bugging me to put Linux onto hers, I got Linux on the Kids PCs but they want Windows back on cos they cant play their games and every time the kids are out of the house, I run upstairs and play with myself ( On the computers you lot, on the computers ... ) and the missus is moaning cos I dont spend any time with her, and when I do its so she can get me to log on to bloody argos etc and use my credit card etc etc... And I so, I think I have a justifiable excuse for missing out on the drivers dont you?

No?

Oh, ok then...

( Walks backwards, head held low, clutching cap )
 
Hang on... UT Classic is still doing it again!?!?!?!?

UT2K4 is now playing perfectly, but UT99 on a lot of the levels are still doing it.

When I tried it out last night, I ran Morpheous, and just went to the top Tower and fired a redeemer and jumped down, and it went fine... Only ran it for about 1 minute, but previously, I was unable to even do that, so I assumed it was ok, but this time, its stil the same... The intro however, played fine, but the gaming was just as bad as before?

Any clues?

ADDITION:

I have just gone to the Control Center and the car thingy that goes along the road is also jerky as hell too!

I have been through all the settings trying those out but nothing has helped at all.

Nothing in the PC is clocked at all.

The PC that its in now, is :-

MSI Neo4
4x512MB Samsung PC3200
XFI

As I said previously, it does this on the other PCIE Boards too, but they are fine with other cards?
 
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standard crappy ati drivers. i got the 6.9's installed on my 9800pro system and i can see now why people always say that ati's drivers have a lot of catching up to do in the development area.

i have a client that was still using the detonator 50 series driver and had no problems in newer games. its always the case with ati drivers when a new game is released you can;t play it properly until ati release a new driver to sort out the bugs.

unless the drivers are different for other cards, this is just from my observations on the 9800pro i have, and probably will soon sell.
 
I also got a 9800Pro... 2 of them actually... Both work wonderfully.

I agree on the Drivers issues... I have a few older drivers that I will be going through in a short while, such as the DNA Drivers based on the CAT 4.11 and those drivers work just spanky on the 9800Pro... I used them originally for the 9500np to clock it up ( And with ATI Tool, to beyong the 9700Pro ). The only reason I moved off those, was that a lot of games kept bugging me about the drivers being old... Sodding things.

Anyway, yes, I think I need to drop down a notch or two.

I had just come off 5.10 actually, so I am unsure as to why this is, it certainly cannot be because they are newer drivers surely?

I will try the drivers that came on the CD too! - if I can find it? Should still be in the box, I dont know?

Cheers dude.
 
Hey.

Your problem sounds more like a CPU power saving/Dual core compatibility issue.

Post your CPU details if possible. Try disabling any Cool N Quiet/Speedstep/throttling options in the bios and set the power mode in control panel > power options to always on. Make sure the game runs on a single thread as well.

Download the latest update for UT, which is v436. In the video options>preferences in UT try to set the minimum frame rate to 0, as sometimes it would stutter when chopping and changing detail levels.
In your UnrealTournament.ini file increase the engine cache size a bit, it might mean increased load times but it could help aswell as the default size is tiny. Keep it fairly small though 8~32mb
Also the original Unreal engine was awful in Direct3d, as it was writting for glide initially it works much better in openGL, so make sure you have this updated openGL render.
http://cwdohnal.home.mindspring.com/utglr/
Just extract the files in to your Unreal Tournament/System folder and overwrite (after backing up!) the original files.
Both Unreal engines can report strange framerates and behaviour when the gamespeed is set to less than 1. Open the console in game and type 'slomo 1' it might help.
Feel free to post your UnrealTournament.ini file i can look for any possible problems there.
Try to enable triple buffering in your graphics card control panel.
If all else fails try an Unreal forum as they should know a lot more about the game and possible settings? As it sounds like it is application specific.
Good luck i love UT :D
 
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LOL

No, its nothign to do with UT itself.... Its *** drivers...

I have UT playing on all my PCs, and yes, Glide is better for it... UT Plays just peachy on WinNT 4... It warns you about it, but will let you, and you just select OpenGL as *** display and it plays just spanky!

Plus of course, thats why nVidia is much better than Radeon for UT etc... The OpenGL on a Radeon is absolutely fowl in comparison.

Anyway, I have swapped the card with other cards, I only get this issue with just the X800GTO and no other card. The X1600 and the X1800 are *** closest cards I have to the X800 as they are all PCI but the other 2 are fine ( Apart from the speed differences of course )

PS I also love UT - Would never be without it.
 
Nope, still no luck?

anyone?

Can anyone with an X800 PCIE card, run UT99 and tell me if it works or not, and if so, tell me what Drivers they are running?

I might just try uninstalling all the drivers and see if the MS update will put those back in cos they run it just fine, I am sure they did
 
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