Xbox 360 Elite Failure rate?

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Whats the Failure rate on these like, i heard that they use 65nm process now so they are much more cooler, i really want a 360 but i dont have the time or patience to RMA.
 
Whats the Failure rate on these like, i heard that they use 65nm process now so they are much more cooler, i really want a 360 but i dont have the time or patience to RMA.

It's too new to say for certain. We don't know the official failure rate for non-elites, let alone for elites!

Microsoft will never, ever release the official figures. To do so would probably be catastrophic for the 360 sales.

I agree, no-one wants to RMA etc, I don't are how long it takes, it is hassle.

Techincally i do not have an answer to your original question. The failure rate will be lower than the 360 one, but as the elite is so new it is hard to call one way or the other. For instance I have not head of many RROD for the Elites, but have read of many problems with the new HDD on them.

I would feel happy to buy one over an old 360 in terms of reliability if I was buying one now, just based on the guarantee of having a unit with the new cooling setup and the 65nm CPU. But I am assuming these would improve the reliability.


rp200
 
I'm pretty sure I've read they won't be going 65nm while next August(ish).

The elites seem to have a new cooling system though, whether that will help we'll see over the course of the next year...
 
I'm pretty sure I've read they won't be going 65nm while next August(ish).

The elites seem to have a new cooling system though, whether that will help we'll see over the course of the next year...

The CPU's are already 65nm but the graphics cards aren't yet.
 
Well in another, very well known and large forum, they did a pole on all 360 owners from lunch. a couple of hundred people took part and it turned out that 50% of owners, weather they bought it from release or last week, had a 360 fail on them at least once. and just under 20% of them said they had to change there 360 multiple times.

I have simply never heard of anything like that before in my life, and how MS have got away with it is amazing. There can be simply no excuse for it, none at all.

If the elite had a built in HD-DVD as well as a better cooling system then i would be tempted to give it a go. but otherwise as a piece of technology it's stillborn and a complete disaster.
 
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Not all Elites have 65nm (most don't), they're only just starting to trickle through in very sparse numbers.
 
Well in another, very well known and large forum, they did a pole on all 360 owners from lunch. a couple of hundred people took part and it turned out that 50% of owners, weather they bought it from release or last week, had a 360 fail on them at least once. and just under 20% of them said they had to change there 360 multiple times.

I have simply never heard of anything like that before in my life, and how MS have got away with it is amazing. There can be simply no excuse for it, none at all.

If the elite had a built in HD-DVD as well as a better cooling system then i would be tempted to give it a go. but otherwise as a piece of technology it's stillborn and a complete disaster.

Wow thaks for that, now that i have seen a new 40gb ps3 for £300 id be more tempted to go with that because of the Wifi/HardDrive/HD Player all in one and i can honestly say that the 360 being Micro$haft including the wireless/hdplayer seperately is a big mistake and cashing in on failed products, i admit theirs not a lot out for the ps3 but i am really looking forward to MGS4 and GTA, cheers bud.
 
The 65nm CPU isn't likely to help with hardware failures as the problem is all GPU related and is not directly related to heat either.

Anyway as mentioned, Elites don't have the 65nm CPU yet. The newer Halo edition ones do but that's it so far. If you want a 360 just get one now as the Elite (and the new Premiums) do have steps taken to help the GPU issue.
 
I am on my launch console, what is the worry?

The amount of issues regarding thousands of 360's failing, albeit they get pretty hot but MS should sort out this problem with a better cooling solution. Spending £300 is quite a lot of money to me as im on an Apprentice wage and dont want be forking out for problems that should be forseen and fixed.
 
Just buy it from a store near you, you can just get an instant swap if it does fail, which is unlikely anyway. And besides, why buy now and wait for games? Buy now and play some great games now :)
 
I doubt we'll ever know the actual percentage. The only thing I can offer is anecdotal evidence. I only know one person who has bought an Elite and it died within 3 days. He wasn't a happy bunny but got it swapped pretty easily.
 
The amount of issues regarding thousands of 360's failing, albeit they get pretty hot but MS should sort out this problem with a better cooling solution. Spending £300 is quite a lot of money to me as im on an Apprentice wage and dont want be forking out for problems that should be forseen and fixed.

They already have fitted a better cooling system its an extra heatsink on the gpu and a heatpipe.
Any older 360 that fails with the three red lights and gets repaired by microsoft gets the new system fitted..
All the elites have the better cooling system.
 
Just buy it from a store near you, you can just get an instant swap if it does fail, which is unlikely anyway. And besides, why buy now and wait for games? Buy now and play some great games now :)

And it's this attitude that lets Microsoft off the hook when they should be hammered for this.

I won't deniy that in principle the 360 is a good console. But the exciution is breath-takingly awful.
 
Well we know one thing for certain, the unreliability of the 360 is costing Microsoft a fortune in repair/replacement bills.

Isn't common knowledge they've not turned around a profit on any of the consoles they've made in the grand scheme of things?
 
The amount of issues regarding thousands of 360's failing, albeit they get pretty hot but MS should sort out this problem with a better cooling solution. Spending £300 is quite a lot of money to me as im on an Apprentice wage and dont want be forking out for problems that should be forseen and fixed.

But the fact is EVERYBODY who has 3ROD 360 posts on a forum but how many members post they have a launch of a 1-2 year old console, not many, I will post in every 360 death thread just showing people 360s are not that bad.
 
But the fact is EVERYBODY who has 3ROD 360 posts on a forum but how many members post they have a launch of a 1-2 year old console, not many, I will post in every 360 death thread just showing people 360s are not that bad.

I agree, less people post on a forum when they have a good product etc as it is "normal" to have a good product for £300 notes. But can you really contest that there is not a problem when MS have now acknowledged it? (granted they kept us in the dark about their failure issues for 18 months). They didn't spend 1 billion for on the extended warranty for no reason, they would much rather have saved that money to make their entertainment division post a profit this year (maybe).

In fairness I can't think of anything that MS couldd do on a practical level, that they haven't already done. (Apart from fessing up earlier, but no big company would do that if they could avoid it).


rp200
 
But the fact is EVERYBODY who has 3ROD 360 posts on a forum but how many members post they have a launch of a 1-2 year old console, not many, I will post in every 360 death thread just showing people 360s are not that bad.
But they are! Soon after the 360 launched thread started appearing in many forums about countless 360's failing. TBH i haven't seen anything like that about the PS3. Sure there always going to one or two but i haven't atually heard of anyone's PS3 actually fail! Purely in terms of relaibility Sony has nailed it's product.
 
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