Yamaha RS202D & Dali SPEKTOR 2 - need Bass

Dirk Diggler

Dirk Diggler

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I've got Yamaha RS202D & Dali SPEKTOR 2 that I use in a small office/mancave. I bought them on a bit of a whim as I wasn't sure if I'd use them much, but I really enjoy them for gaming & TV/movies. I was thinking I could do with a bit more bass, however not sure I could add this without changing the amp as it doesn't seem to have a bass output connection?

PC is connected via 3.5mm to RCA and TV is connected via Optical to RCA.

If the Yamaha amp isn't compatible, could anyone suggest an alternative amp and also a good "mid range" bass unit?
 
lucid said:
Have a look at the BK range of subs. They use a parallel speaker wire connection as well as low-level RCA. You have a choice then of either as both connections are featured on their subs. Other brands do something similar too.
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What does that mean exactly, are you saying I would double up the connection to the amp with one of the Dali speakers?
 
Thanks for the info so far. I think in such a small office I may be overreaching here. A better option may be to upgrade the Dali speakers at some point, although I do think they sound great and just lack a little bit of bass in certain moments, like movie scenes where you get that effect sound when slow motion scenes are being played out.

Overall I'm pretty content with the system and my idea for improvement might be a bit of a cash cow with little gain. :)
 
I didn't do anything with this, but have now moved the setup to a larger room and again interested in upgrading the sound.

I would be happy to change the amp as 2.1 from the Yamaha unit probably isn't enough, and hoping to add some additional speakers. I suppose what I'm looking for is a new system spec where I might retain the Dali's. :)

Budget is £1k

The best choice of amp in the budget appears to be the Denon AVR-X2700H at around £630. If so, would £370 be a decent budget in order to pick something up to compliment the Denon + Dali's?
 
Just checking back in, this must be my longest research period for anything I've ever bought. :p

With Black Friday imminent, I thought I might see if I can sniff out a deal on an AV receiver that I'm happy to run with only the 2 Dali Spektors and then pick up the rest of the system after Xmas.

Is the Denon AVR-X2700H still the best option in the £600-700 price range?

I'm starting to get a little concerned that I'm diddling so long that newer models have come along - especially when I'm seeing low stock levels which may mean superseded?
 
Ok, time to get the trigger pulled and maybe even a Black Friday deal!

I'm going to add a subwoofer to the current 2.1 and see how I feel with it added with the Yamaha RS202D & Dali SPEKTOR 2. I'd like to hedge my bets a bit and buy something that I could use with a 5.1 in future if I do decide to upgrade the amp.

I can't find the Rel T5i in stock so I'm assuming it's eol? Could anyone suggest a decent alternative in that price range e.g. around £350?

Edit: actually, is this the new model? https://www.richersounds.com/rel-t-zero-mk3-gloss-black.html

Edit 2: Would this unit compliment the Spektors? Dali C8D Subwoofer Black Ash https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07CHW742N/ref=cm_sw_r_apan_glt_fabc_EBEE9K020NA7KQY1BP1K

Also, the speaker cable I'm currently using is linked below. It's too think to double up one of the Spektors and the subwoofer so I need an alternative quality cable that is thinner. Again, any suggestions welcome.

Current (too think) cable: KabelDirekt - Pure Copper Stereo... https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01C79XV5W?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
 
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lucid said:
Are you even bothering to pay attention to what you're doing or are you just wasting everyone's time?
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Ok, you've been really helpful and I do appreciate it. However, you'll need to understand that if you want to assist people who are clearly at novice level then it'll take some patience.

The reason I thought I had to connect the sub with one of the Spektors was due to this exchange earlier in the thread.

Dirk Diggler said:
What does that mean exactly, are you saying I would double up the connection to the amp with one of the Dali speakers?
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hornetstinger said:
Yup. No problem it doesn't draw power from your amp.
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So, going by the image you posted of the connecting cable, I can see that I need a single +ve cable connection to each speaker with a common ground from any one of them, hence the 3 core connection to the sub.

By the way, I'm an approved electrician therefore I understand the current explanation regarding cable size.

Anyway, thanks for the time you've taken to respond and genuine apologies if you think I was ignoring your advice.
 
hornetstinger said:
Look at BK Gemini, Double Gem, XLS 200, XLS400, SVS SB1000, Monoprice 10"
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Richer Sounds were hopeless, with no stock. I'm struggling to find any of these models anywhere, some seem quite older models now so maybe EOL or maybe this is the usual Brexit/logistics issues?

If you see any anywhere and remember to link me that would be great, else I think I'm going to end up with a soundbar! :p
 
I'm liking the look of the Mono linked earlier tonight: https://www.monoprice.uk/products/m...tm_source=google&utm_campaign=Google Shopping

It's just within budget and should match the Spektors pretty closely in terms of finish. I see they do a free return service which is reassuring as I won't know if I like it until I hear and see it.

What cable would I use to link this to the Yamaha? I'm assuming I'll need to buy that separately.
 
Fair enough, I think it's time to hunt for a 5.1 or even 3.1 amp and just replace the Yamaha unit as it's restricting me too much. I could probably do with a unit that does HDMI input/output because another bug bear of the Yamaha is the need for Bluetooth or optical connections.

I'll get googling. :)

P.s. I'm heading back into Glasgow today so will see if I can get some recommendations for a 5.1 amp which is hopefully on Black Friday special. The only purchase I've put more time into was my watch that took me about 3 years to settle on (drove my wife nuts). :p
 
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I'm considering pulling the trigger on Denon AVR-S660H - https://www.denon.com/en-gb/product/av-receivers/avr-s660h

It's bang on budget at £499 direct from Denon. I did consider the 6700H but I doubt that I will ever get into a setup that would do it justice; my finished article is likely to be 3 front speakers and a sub-woofer.

Just posting here in case anyone has any experience of that unit to say, NO! :)

By the way, mainstream retailers seem to be really struggling for stock - probably Brexit/Covid/Supply chain related.
 
Eventually!

I got a Denon S760H from Richer Sounds, finally managed to get one in stock. I haven't bought a subwoofer yet as I want to make sure the Denon is playing okay with my setup, else I'll send it back.

I could do with some assistance with the setup (no surprise there :)).

The first step is to get the TV apps e.g. iPlayer etc coming through the Denon but it doesn't seem possible with the way I have it set up. I've got the Denon linked to the HDMI 4 port in my TV which is Samsung UE55NU8000 because it says that's the ARC output. However, I'm not sure how to get the sound to the Denon? Am I going to be better hooking up an optical audio cable?

There's no manual with the Denon, which I think is really poor.

BTW, PS5 is working perfectly through the unit, it's just the ARC thing I'm struggling with.

Edit: I bought an optical cable and all works perfectly. :)
 
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Beenom said:
On my AVR X3400H it's the "TV Audio" input channel for ARC audio. I presume you've got the HDMI connected to the correct ARC HDMI port on the receiver? Shouldn't require any other tinkering unless there's something within the TV menus re output audio.
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I think it's the TV at fault, but I have it working via Optical so I've got a workaround until I get the TV changed. :)
 
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