your summer tyres and the winter
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Some reduction in grip due mainly to the vast amount of salt on the roads around here, but nothing surprising. Just the same as it's been for the last 20 odd years that I've been driving in fact; seems all the excitement about winter tyres hasn't made the summer ones any worse.
ok, so if studs cant defy physics can you URL me to some l337 haxx?
Yadda Yadda, google the video of cars on an ice rink, you won't be racing but different (non studded) tyres do make a massive difference.
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Devon. I'm seeing a pattern here
Yea, it's actually 23c here.
Oh no wait, it's sub zero
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I have T1-S's on the Westfield and bought that into work today in -5c temps. No issues whatsoever. Maybe you're not driving to the conditions?
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no issues here either with a daily commute into the middle of dartmoor may get interesting though, got sportcontact 2's on the cupra and seem to perform better then the last tyres i had,
Caporegime
I most definitely am.
Don't get me wrong, I can drive it fine, but I can feel that it's not sure footed at all.
Soldato
Got to be said that it is dramatically more slippy on dry roads at -3c than it is even at 0c.
Not sure that warrants winter tyres though, was still able to "make progress" at the meet...
Not sure that warrants winter tyres though, was still able to "make progress" at the meet...
Not a problem so far, went on the gay meet yesterday, and I had the ability to put down full power and experience no slip. Seemed like I had plenty of grip left in reserve but didn't push on because of the unknown of what may be lurking in the shade.
Did have a bit of traction issues the other evening going to Brighton flooring it in third, but I don't feel at any risk of an instant crash just because its suddenly a few degrees colder.
Did have a bit of traction issues the other evening going to Brighton flooring it in third, but I don't feel at any risk of an instant crash just because its suddenly a few degrees colder.
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Im having the same problems as you then im not alone lol , been using the sierra in this weather cos i get more feel out of it my FR is so vague
Still on Vredsteins m8?
Yes, all round, even if they were more expensive I couldn't expect any more for a tyre in the wet or dry, warm or cold. Seem to suit the ford MONDEO just fine.
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Soldato
No problems here at all.
No issues whatsoever with the Vreds. They just keep performing irrespective of the conditions. It is nowhere near cold enough (for long enough) to warrant winter tyres. Grip is what you need, and with 6mm of the stuff there should be no reason to not stay on the road.
I will admit, there has been maybe one or two occasions where the DSC light has flickered but nothing more than similar driving in the rain.
No issues getting the power down even in 1st.
I will admit, there has been maybe one or two occasions where the DSC light has flickered but nothing more than similar driving in the rain.
No issues getting the power down even in 1st.
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Last year I could not get up the last hill before home, got about 200 yards back and came to a stop, slowly slid back down again. Had to double back to a garage and put 60kilos of coal in the boot to make it up.
Caporegime
Falken F452's. Can't get the power down, but not overly bad.
When there's snow on the road, they're useless, whereas my wife can get up the hill in her Daewoo. Thin wheels.
When there's snow on the road, they're useless, whereas my wife can get up the hill in her Daewoo. Thin wheels.
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Last year I could not get up the last hill before home, got about 200 yards back and came to a stop, slowly slid back down again. Had to double back to a garage and put 60kilos of coal in the boot to make it up.
Lol i felt properly smug past day or so in the sierra watching people struggle up hills and i just cruise up in the cossie
, except when i sneezed and it went over 4000 rpm 
, i think my FR though is wanting some diff tyres but as been said not worth it for how bad it gets over the yearHi there
From what people are saying here it would seem out of Summer tyres the Vredstein, CS2/CS3 tyres seem to perform quite well in the cold too, though I suspect their snow performance will be severley limited.
The Peugeot 306HDi at home has CS2's fitted and it drove in snow absolutely fine (down to driving to the conditions) last year and I mean deep snow as in fully snow covered roads, even in some cases where the snow had compacted, I never once got stuck and took great delight in overtaking cars like A5 Quattros with great delight.
However as good as the CS2 tyre might be, I put it more down to how thin the tyres are, due to their good performance, but I got about fine in a 306 on none winter tyres. Still I drove to the conditions, if I had to stop on a hill, I could not get up it unless I rolled back to the bottom and had another go, but keeping momentum up in snow. However I believe if the 306 was on winter tyres then it would go up a hill fine even if I had to stop and braking distance would be vastly reduced. Because that is where winter tyres excel which is traction and braking on snow, no summer tyre can come remotely close, not even an all season in most cases.
Don't get me wrong I am loving the winters on the EVO, they let me drive the car hard still, wheras a Summer tyre on the EVO would not no doubt have me tip toeing around a bit, wheras the Michelin lets me just drive how I want to drive.
From what people are saying here it would seem out of Summer tyres the Vredstein, CS2/CS3 tyres seem to perform quite well in the cold too, though I suspect their snow performance will be severley limited.
The Peugeot 306HDi at home has CS2's fitted and it drove in snow absolutely fine (down to driving to the conditions) last year and I mean deep snow as in fully snow covered roads, even in some cases where the snow had compacted, I never once got stuck and took great delight in overtaking cars like A5 Quattros with great delight.
However as good as the CS2 tyre might be, I put it more down to how thin the tyres are, due to their good performance, but I got about fine in a 306 on none winter tyres. Still I drove to the conditions, if I had to stop on a hill, I could not get up it unless I rolled back to the bottom and had another go, but keeping momentum up in snow. However I believe if the 306 was on winter tyres then it would go up a hill fine even if I had to stop and braking distance would be vastly reduced. Because that is where winter tyres excel which is traction and braking on snow, no summer tyre can come remotely close, not even an all season in most cases.
Don't get me wrong I am loving the winters on the EVO, they let me drive the car hard still, wheras a Summer tyre on the EVO would not no doubt have me tip toeing around a bit, wheras the Michelin lets me just drive how I want to drive.
My Leon was pretty good in snow on CS3s, but I suspect that was down to the 4wd
I've seen lots of DSC light in my Z3 today. It's running some rather old Michelin Pilot Sports, but with plenty of tread.
-4C = squirmy fun
My Volvo doesn't have traction control, so the only way I'll tell if I'm losing the back is if I suddently end up in a hedge.
However, I tend to drive that more sedately than the BMW