Youtube block users unless they link with google account

You have to create a Google account to use Youtube, you have to give Google your phone number to sign up a Google account.

Google are well-known for harvesting information, and they're not exactly squeaky-clean as a company either.

Avoid giving them your information, they got away with the wifi snooping (with an obvious lie "I don't know how that code got in there! Honest!") and who knows what else they're going to get away with in the future.
 
It'll accept Yahoo addresses too if you want to link one.

How does it link them though, plently of websites let you register with an email address and a password but my Google account is now my Youtube account. Unless Yahoo have entered into some kind of similar deal then things like passwords etc. will all be seperate.
 
I'm not too keen on this whole "link everything on the net together and use a real name" thing that is happening.

For example:
I would like to use Blizzards social tools but I don't want to display my real name to everyone so I cant.
I'm not interested in everyone on MSN knowing my real name so have to use a fake one after the change
I don't want to link Facebook with forums, emails and other sites.
 
I don't have a google/gmail/yahoo account, nor do I want any of these things.

I have a youtube account and a hotmail address.

**** you youtube, **** you, and the horse you rode in on.
 
Bumping this bitch so that I can have a moan..

I have 2 gmail accounts. One that I use for my android phone and one that I use for personal emails (which is also linked to various online payment methods etcetc).
I keep them separate, why?. Because I don't want to walk around with a mobile that's so deeply connected to my personal and financial 'on-line' life. I could lose it, it could be stolen, a million things; and the last thing I need is paypal, ebay, facebook, personal email blah blah logins falling into the wrong hands.

So..

I have 3 youtube accounts. Why?. I have no idea.. From uploading uni videos, music videos, video for family to see - and an account that I actually use/remain logged into, in order to watched flagged vids and comment.
I spent my 2 existing gmail addys registering for my 2 nonsense youtube accounts, so of course now I have nothing to link my main youtube account to.

No problem, we'll create a gmail account... Is it irritating?. Well of course!, why on earth would I want to link my activity on one website to that on another?, and to be forced like this?, very odd.. Also it does seem mighty strange that I'm forced to link youtube to a gmail account that I'm creating for no other purpose than to appease a youtube sign-in form?, again, very odd. But ho hum, it's not my server space/bandwidth, who am I to question.. Until.. Oh my, I need to verify my existence by inputting my mobile number, wow - curiouser and curiouser.


TL : DR^ - Here's my concern..

Without hunting for links and trudging through the mire of google global takeover conspiracy nuts, what do I, as a basic consumer, know that they are harvesting?.
At a very basic level they seem to have, or want;

* Keywords from my personal, educational and business emails (header and content). Images, files, descriptions thereof. Anything contained in my gmail account; shopping habits, appointments in google calander, gmail chat logs, possibly transcripts of google voice calls etc.

* My email signup information; DOB, address, name, region etc.

* A history of all of the youtube videos I watch, the music I listen to, the comments I make and any messages I might send/receive using youtube.

* My google search history, any links I click away from my search.

* Chrome users?, dear me - Search history, address bar (Omni-box) inputs (potentially all keystrokes! - turn that auto-suggest off!, yowzers)

* My mobile telephone number and or land line, alternative email addresses.

* My precise gps location (if permitted in browser (on by default?) -using an android handset here, standard browser).

*Picasa web album?, I don't use it personally, but it is tied to gmail accounts, includes facial recognition, automatically tagging names/people etc after a point.

*My google books history, reading habits, annotations.

*Ad clicks/activities on millions of third party websites who partake in google advertisement services/Adsense.

*Google health. Any inputted data relating to my physical form/fitness across time. Potentially full health records, medications etc.

*Google android apps?. Without searching I can't find out what they harvest, and I'm lazy. Location markers from google maps/earth?. Quick search data, latitude data, google talk, contact details, google shopper, buzz, calender, 'google finance' data. All linked to a sole gmail account that I have to have in order to use my android phone.


I'm sure there's a hell of a lot more, but as I said, I'm lazy, and this is just what I can pick from the top of my head.

Do I think that a google black ops team is plotting to kick my front door down and put a bag over my head?. No, of course not. But I am very concerned about the implications in relation to my net privacy, my anonymity, that of my friends and colleagues - those who email and contact me via google services, in turn their images, private data and so on; of the effects this whole thing will have on net neutrality and the ability of ISP's to charge tariffs based on varying/individual media usage in years to come, etcetc.

In short, I don't like it, and to opt out is to opt out of a vast share of the goodness that the internet has to offer, so it's a very difficult choice. We're paying for services with small transactions of personal data.
For those posters above who wonder what all of the fuss is about, you should really give it a little more thought; your sensitive data is being harvested and cross-correlated, used for who knows what at the moment, and who knows what in the future..
 
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You moan about Google harvesting info when your bank, mobile telephone provider, your ISP, any Nectar type card provider and your local council, to name but a few, have been doing it for years. :confused:

It's life.
 
I signed up to a Gmail account, when it was invite-only.

Just checked it now (haven't used it since I signed up with an Apple MobileMe) and it was spammed to hell and back :(
 
I signed up to a Gmail account, when it was invite-only.

Just checked it now (haven't used it since I signed up with an Apple MobileMe) and it was spammed to hell and back :(

Is it a fairly 'good' address? I have two Google accounts, one is my initial and surname and I get tons of spam in this account, plus a lot of other people with my initial and surname seem to think it's their address and sign up to things like forums, even banks with it. My other Google account is something less obvious and I've never had a single bit of spam in it.
 
You moan about Google harvesting info when your bank, mobile telephone provider, your ISP, any Nectar type card provider and your local council, to name but a few, have been doing it for years. :confused:

It's life.


That's an amazing insight you have there. It's not really the same though is it..
My bank is a financial institution, a credit rating is a universal means of calculating the credit worthiness of an individual. My ISP stores a minimum amount of data afaik, not even headers, my mobile provider stores information that they are legally obliged to store, and enough to present me with a bill each month.. And the local council keep a record of where I live/have lived, they exist independently, and are born of necessity. Amazing.
What on earth has any of that got to do with an internet search engine group amassing the type of cross section of information that's never been encountered before?. Or do you exchange secrets with the milkman?.
 
To be honest I was miffed at this as well, its another needless account I have to sync to all my devices/ comps jsut so I can track comments etc on my Vids.
 
Is it a fairly 'good' address? I have two Google accounts, one is my initial and surname and I get tons of spam in this account, plus a lot of other people with my initial and surname seem to think it's their address and sign up to things like forums, even banks with it. My other Google account is something less obvious and I've never had a single bit of spam in it.

First letter of forename then surname. No dots, or hyphens.

Just spent 10 minutes "reporting spam".
 
Spam usually targets all combination of regular names. So if you use a regular name in theres, its like like spam magnet. Call yourself M00nd0g9 and you'll get a lot less spam for that reason alone.
 
To be honest I was miffed at this as well, its another needless account I have to sync to all my devices/ comps jsut so I can track comments etc on my Vids.

I have multiple emails, gmail and pop3 for different reasons. However they all forward to one gmail account. So I get all valid email (less the spam) in one account. That account syncs to my outlook, so I can have a local copy and a PST backup file of my Gmail.

For example when I get a reply on OCUK it will appear in my Gmail, even though I'm registered on OCUK with different a POP3 account.
 
I use firefox to look at youtube as it filters out all the ads in the videos. So I leave firefox logged in to my youtube gmail account.

I use Chrome as my main browser though, thats logged into a different gmail account.
 
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