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But surely the 15.20 which have the fury in the inf and are dated 3 days newer are also specifically designed too?
Greebo, i cannot comment on any drivers which we've not officially released through our usual channels.
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AMD 390X Review
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Greebo, i cannot comment on any drivers which we've not officially released through our usual channels.
AMDMatt also said their are some efficiencies improvement and tight timings on the memory as well as higher speed and more.
Im using the 15.20 drivers and no card not flashed, the inf is just modded.
Just run 3dmark firestrike. Total score went from 14109 to 14599 but more importantly the gfx score went from 21735 to 22792, a 9.1% increase!
I suspect a lot of the positive gains from the 3 series cards in reviews over their equivalent 2 series is purely down to the new drivers.
There is even better to come with the 15.30 drivers so AMD claim!
If i can get a 9% increase in games as well then all is good. I am beating some titan tx which are overclocked now in the ocuk 3dmark database!
There has been uplift across the board for 2xx and 3xx on 15.15 ... the Hardware Info NL review used 15.15 for all the AMD cards.
The 3xx (390X particularly) clearly has more going on than just higher memory clocks (= more bandwidth) and another 4GB. It's hugely faster than a 970 all round, now, and demolishes the 980 at higher resolutions in a lot of titles, and comes damn close to the 980ti at higher resolutions in some titles. Furthermore, the frame times have dropped a lot .. it's only being beaten by the Titan X and 980ti now in almost all titles. We knew GCN likes bandwidth, but this looks like a lot more than just that.
Despite the attempts of various sites and individuals to pour cold water on this launch as rebrands which offer negligible improvement, the combination of a few hardware tweaks and major driver improvements seem to have resulted in top performance at very good price points. Certainly if people actually realise how fast they are, after penetrating the FUD, 970 and 980 prices will have to come down very significantly. NVIDIA isn't really looking very good at ANY price point at as of now***.
***Except for the huge own goal with no HDMI 2.0 for 4K TVs.
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Not sure why we have two threads on this, but from reviews the 390X looks very impressive.
Edges the 980 at 1440p and higher, and does so while using less power than the 290X and produces less heat.
It's a shame the card isn't slightly lower priced since its a re-brand but I think its a solid purchase. The MSI 390X in particular is really impressive for me at £350.
Edges the 980 at 1440p and higher, and does so while using less power than the 290X and produces less heat.
It's a shame the card isn't slightly lower priced since its a re-brand but I think its a solid purchase. The MSI 390X in particular is really impressive for me at £350.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2015/06/18/msi_r9_390x_gaming_8g_video_card_review/9#.VYM4EUZiMvw
from your same link
290X clock for clock vs 390x same performance.
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GPU Specification Overview
AMD Radeon R9 290X AMD Radeon R9 290 AMD Radeon R9 390X MSI R9 390X Gaming 8G OC
Shader Processors 2816 2560 2816 2816
Texture Units 176 160 176 176
ROPs 64 64 64 64
Core Clock 727MHz 662MHz - -
Boost Clock 1000MHz 947MHz 1050MHz 1100MHz
Memory Clock 5GHz GDDR5 5GHz GDDR5 6GHz GDDR5 6.1GHz GDDR5
Memory Bus 512-bit 512-bit 512-bit 512-bit
Memory 4GB 4GB 8GB 8GB
FP64 1/8 1/8 1/8 1/8
Transistor Count 6.2B 6.2B 6.2B 6.2B
Manufacturing Process TSMC 28nm TSMC 28nm TSMC 28nm TSMC 28nm
Architecture GCN 1.1 GCN 1.1 GCN 1.1 GCN 1.1
GPU Hawaii Hawaii Hawaii/Grenada Hawaii/Grenada
Launch Price $549 $399 $399 TBA
And what about the clock for clock test they did when they lowered the 390X to the same clock as the 290X, they had identical scores in all the games tested. As I said just extra vram with an overclock.
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Its GCN 1.1 but they may have improved it without changing the GCN version, as Greebo has already posted. Also as I said in my original post....
It might be the driver difference on the 390x in the Hardocp test (15.15) compared to when its tested on 15.5 by other sites. Which Greebo's results make it look like and what the mixed bag of results (from identical to 10/20% difference) across reviews seems to indicate.
There is the NL sire which used 15.15 drivers for both 290x and 390x and the 390x beats the 290x by 1 or 2 fps in each test and thats all.
And thats probably due to the slightly higher clocks.
But at least it shows great performance for both 290x and 390x.
Just wish AMD could have given 290x owners these drivers months ago
And thats probably due to the slightly higher clocks.
But at least it shows great performance for both 290x and 390x.
Just wish AMD could have given 290x owners these drivers months ago
Agreed it does seem daft. I hope they officially release them in the next Beta to none 3 series users.
15.15 here http://forum.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=400078
but the 15.20 are newer and faster http://forum.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=399956
Both are for the 390 and fury cards but with modded inf they work fine on 290/290x cards
Yeah you can, somebody on another forum even edited the 390X BIOS to 4GB just for that purpose.
Idnt feel happy about using the 290x bios ona 290 card as the tighter memory timings may be too much for your 290 card.
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lol @ AMD... absolute idiots... for the last few years they have only won market share from NVidia because they have been price/performance competative.
Fewer features, worse support and lack of usable multi-card performance... for the same price as NVidia?
They're obviously desperate, but they've gone the wrong way. They need to undercut... not price gouge... they will sell less and make less total... idiots!
Fewer features, worse support and lack of usable multi-card performance... for the same price as NVidia?
They're obviously desperate, but they've gone the wrong way. They need to undercut... not price gouge... they will sell less and make less total... idiots!
That's not true, back when they were dominating sales in early 2014 it was due to their mining superiority
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I suspect they will make a fair bit from uneducated people buying 8GB 390s, on the basis that it has 8GB of memory, which is obviously more than almost all the nvidia cards...
15.15 here http://forum.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=400078
but the 15.20 are newer and faster http://forum.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=399956
Both are for the 390 and fury cards but with modded inf they work fine on 290/290x cards
Which are newer 15.20 or. 15.200.1040 for win 10?
Not sure. I think i grabbed the 15.200.1040 but thought they are part of the 15.20 set. The other ones on the 15.15 are a few days older.
Looking at the data files, it looks like the 15.15 may have more bugs fixed in them.