Gigabyte cancels P67 programme – moves 100% to Z68
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Soldato
I meant quality wise, best warranty and best boards - not talking about sales.
I know, they had that rebate going on... but most top users are using Giga's offerings.
Quality-wise there is no contest, MSI come out on top every time, from the component selection to bolted on heatsinks instead of cheap plastic pins.
Brand loyalty and prejudice count for a lot with enthusiasts, I don't expect MSI sales to catch up overnight, it will take a few generations of top products to bridge the gap.
FYI, the top users who try MSI are generally very impressed: http://www.benchtec.co.uk/forums/threads/8078-Benching-MSI-GD65
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Soldato
Quality-wise there is no contest, MSI come out on top every time, from the component selection to bolted on heatsinks instead of cheap plastic pins.
Brand loyalty and prejudice count for a lot with enthusiasts, I don't expect MSI sales to catch up overnight, it will take a few generations of top products to bridge the gap.
FYI, the top users who try MSI are generally very impressed: http://www.benchtec.co.uk/forums/threads/8078-Benching-MSI-GD65
That is just one tiny detail.
For me the main bit about quality it’s the warranty, both of your competitors offer 3 year warranty, although Asus one is very poor. Seeing as you are now aiming to become the de-facto choice in this market, do you think MSI will improve their warranty to 3 years? There is also the added value of having a UK RMA centre which is superquick at dealing with the issue. I know your RMA centre in the Netherlands is quite efficient too but its not the same sending a parcel to Milton Keynes than to Holland in terms of price, is it?
The Gigabyte boards also get the best or some of the best reviews by online reviewers.
Not saying the GD65 is a bad board though, MSI is my second choice after Gigabyte. And of course I will be looking near or around the 8th of May for your Z68 boards too.
the reasoning behind the 2 year warranty is not entirely clear to me if i'm honest but it is something that has been discussed a number of times and will no doubt be discussed once again. In fact a couple of the senior members of MSI are here this week and I am sure that I will get a chance to raise this again. MSI warranty varies from 1 to 3 years depending on territory so it would have to be changed across all of the EU not just the UK.
that said, two years is plenty for most people and I am glad to say that MSI service quality has increased greatly since the switch to the new NL service centre.
that said, two years is plenty for most people and I am glad to say that MSI service quality has increased greatly since the switch to the new NL service centre.
I don't worry too much about warranty for motherboards,I have an old Epox board almost 6 years old still going stong(typing this post on it),plus an even older DFI NF2 board,both don't use solid caps that are standard on most boards nowadays,normally a faulty board will either be DOA or go wrong within 6 months IMHO.
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Yup, I find the same thing, generally something is DOA or developes a fault quickly, I'd say 6 months is way longer than I've had anything develope a problem though, if something arrives working but fails its usually within days, couple weeks for me.
Personally I'd prefer to have a £5 lower cost mobo than £5 more to essentially cover the cost of an increased warranty I have no use for. Not least because I've almost never kept a mobo for more than 2 years. In my main rig, if it lasts a year its a SLOW year, my parents comps/friends are more long term, had no problems on any of them, often my mobo's recycled into their computers, again anything that was faulty would happen short term on my computer. Everything that lastest a year, has had no problem since then either.
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Honest question - do the non-Gigabyte boards also offer adjustment to the CPU turbo on the fly in Windows?
I DO like that feature, means I can run 'on the edge' of stability for most things (for me that's 4.6GHz with my current - lack of - knowledge on clocking), and when I need to switch to an app I just don't want to risk pushing over aforementioned edge, I can just drop the turbos down to 4.2GHz safe in the knowledge I won't risk tripping the system up, without rebooting or restarting any apps.
Most other features on the boards I'm not too fussed about it, and I didn't buy mine for this feature, but I'm real glad it has it (UD7 btw, I don't know if all the other UDx boards have it too or not).
I DO like that feature, means I can run 'on the edge' of stability for most things (for me that's 4.6GHz with my current - lack of - knowledge on clocking), and when I need to switch to an app I just don't want to risk pushing over aforementioned edge, I can just drop the turbos down to 4.2GHz safe in the knowledge I won't risk tripping the system up, without rebooting or restarting any apps.
Most other features on the boards I'm not too fussed about it, and I didn't buy mine for this feature, but I'm real glad it has it (UD7 btw, I don't know if all the other UDx boards have it too or not).
MSI Control Center II offers overclocking functions in Windows:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ObQcR9q6go
Ok thanks for that, looks like it may have more things you can change on the fly than I can with mine; I can do turbo multiplier on the fly (and some of the power saving stuff or the power phase LEDs on/off) but the other items (like bclk for example) would take a reboot for me even if set whilst in Windows.
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Soldato
I have just read that some Z68 boards won't have the DVI / VGA connectors! 
No video outputs on the UD7. Interesting...
I think they are switching over for the SSD caching feature, not for the GPU.
Soldato
well, neither the Z68-UD3P or the Z68-UD7 have GPU outputs so I might just go and buy the Z68-GD80 which I know has!!!
that is because some of Gigabyte's Z68 are just their P67 models with the chipset switched so they will feature the Z68 chipset but not all of the functionality
It means that they will be first to market with a full range because their competitors will be doing more development work but many of their boards with not have the primary Z68 advantage of being able to use the onboard VGA and its features.
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Caporegime
http://gigabytedaily.blogspot.com/
P67 remain in production and H67 will remain in production till 2012
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P67 remain in production and H67 will remain in production till 2012
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agreed. Good on Gigabyte for acting quickly to settle this before it got out of hand.