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(!Warning! Fudzilla!) Eeeek 2900XT may need a 750W+ PSU
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Good old Fuad keeping up the INQ tradition by pulling random stuff out of his proverbial.
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The anti ATi stand at Fudzilla is just begging for trouble.Tom|Nbk said:
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The information sheet Fuad posted apparantly showing an AMD instruction manual with spec's is FAKE. A number of things are wrong, the grammar sucks and things just don't add up. I suspect someone has emailed Fuad it, and in his exicted confused state he has posted it up without a second thought, as to how damaging this really is.
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Just for the record.
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like apparantly the R600 hits 100C after being powered up for 2min.... so idle speeds.....
yeah, so the nice little 80nm chip pumps out THAT much heat..... not sure i believe that.... especialy when the 8800 is 90nm, and nowhere near that hot.
Is there still thought of a 65nm revision of the R600? If there is i'd be really tempted to hold off for it, though TBH my 1950pro will easily last that long, even with my 20" ws. Punchy little card.
yeah, so the nice little 80nm chip pumps out THAT much heat..... not sure i believe that.... especialy when the 8800 is 90nm, and nowhere near that hot.
Is there still thought of a 65nm revision of the R600? If there is i'd be really tempted to hold off for it, though TBH my 1950pro will easily last that long, even with my 20" ws. Punchy little card.
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Also regarding this 100c nonsence.
This is making my blood boil now.
AMD/ATI let me tell these guys the real facts about this card because the utter crap on the internet is literally that, CRAP!
The card is quiet, in fact its more or less silent even after a good gaming session. It also stays in the 70c-80c under full load whilst overclocked and still remains quiet.
At stock speeds its generally around the 60c-70c mark and the heatsink does not burn to the touch like an 8800GTX or X1950 XTX, so the card can be handled even after a mad benchmarking session.
Also regarding this 100c nonsence.
This is making my blood boil now.
AMD/ATI let me tell these guys the real facts about this card because the utter crap on the internet is literally that, CRAP!
The card is quiet, in fact its more or less silent even after a good gaming session. It also stays in the 70c-80c under full load whilst overclocked and still remains quiet.
At stock speeds its generally around the 60c-70c mark and the heatsink does not burn to the touch like an 8800GTX or X1950 XTX, so the card can be handled even after a mad benchmarking session.
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Gibbo to the rescue, don't think ATi would mind at all since the information that has gone round today from Fraud is very damaging.
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Gibbo said:
thats good to hear
one of the main reasons im after upgrading to the 2900 is my X1900 XTX is stupidly noisy and runs very hot !
if it turns out to be pants, ill have an 8800 GTX, but if not, ill stick with 2900 so i can have crossfire someday with my intel 975x motherboard.
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Doesn't anyone realise that wannabe journalist on Fudzilla is perhaps the most anti ATi person on earth?!
The high PSU rating is probably just AMD/ATI covering their tails as not everyone has a solid brand PSU, if they rate it at 500W or below and people with a generic 500W PSU with poor rails cant run it, its just hassle for them explaining to customers the problem.
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so temps not dissimilar to the X19xx XT/XTX? That's not too bad, given the greater TDP.
I'm hoping HIS come up with an equally innovative cooling solution to cool things further, or Thermalright come up with a punchy HD 2900 compatible cooler (or Zalman for that matter). I cant stand stock ATI heatsinks, and if they OC well then the extra temp head room would be nice.
Gibbo, is there any non NDA data on the max safe temp? I remember the old X19xx's were like 100-110 odd or something insane!
People like Fuad make me more and more interested in the HD 2900. Apart from the fact that i couldnt stand to put a Geforce in my comp, dunno why, just the way it is, prob because they always used to be "the card to get", and i've always had ATI and never had a prob (maybe that makes me a "fanboi" but, i'll aways go for bang for bunch, and ATI has always been that), the total disinformation campaign makes me wonder why people are trying so hard to make them sound bad.
A bit like when as a kid you get told not to do things by your parents, and all it does is make you more interested. Especially when the claims are so outrageous.
But hey, its wait and see time, with info seeping through the cracks of the ATI NDA, and speculation rife..... I wont believe anything until i see reviews on Tomshardware or Anandtech, or personal reports in this forum from people who have been around a bit. Bit like you are more likely to believe BBC over Al jazeera, or the Times over the News of the World!
I'm hoping HIS come up with an equally innovative cooling solution to cool things further, or Thermalright come up with a punchy HD 2900 compatible cooler (or Zalman for that matter). I cant stand stock ATI heatsinks, and if they OC well then the extra temp head room would be nice.
Gibbo, is there any non NDA data on the max safe temp? I remember the old X19xx's were like 100-110 odd or something insane!
People like Fuad make me more and more interested in the HD 2900. Apart from the fact that i couldnt stand to put a Geforce in my comp, dunno why, just the way it is, prob because they always used to be "the card to get", and i've always had ATI and never had a prob (maybe that makes me a "fanboi" but, i'll aways go for bang for bunch, and ATI has always been that), the total disinformation campaign makes me wonder why people are trying so hard to make them sound bad.
A bit like when as a kid you get told not to do things by your parents, and all it does is make you more interested. Especially when the claims are so outrageous.
But hey, its wait and see time, with info seeping through the cracks of the ATI NDA, and speculation rife..... I wont believe anything until i see reviews on Tomshardware or Anandtech, or personal reports in this forum from people who have been around a bit. Bit like you are more likely to believe BBC over Al jazeera, or the Times over the News of the World!
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Fuad typically ignored the fact that the absoloute MAX the specifications of the card/ bus/power connections could ever do are 225w
We know for sure how much power it draws under 225w, not over.
6 pin = 75w MAX
6 pin = 75w MAX
PCIe = 75w MAX
The card can not do more than 225w due to limitations of PCI-E and the power connections FACT. Gibbos word is synchronous to this information. Fuad is an idiot.
We know for sure how much power it draws under 225w, not over.
6 pin = 75w MAX
6 pin = 75w MAX
PCIe = 75w MAX
The card can not do more than 225w due to limitations of PCI-E and the power connections FACT. Gibbos word is synchronous to this information. Fuad is an idiot.
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Do the new 8 pin power connectors give more power, if so how much?
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manoz said:
they do give more power than previously needed, but the power can not exceed 225w as PCI-E cannot handle anymore than this. No matter how many fancy connectors you add
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Thanks for the infomation Gibbo, I think I'll definitly hold out for the HD2900 XT series now, AMD/ATI should file a lawsuit for libel damages against that Fudzilla website - slander is against the law as far as I'm aware & thus they are providing false infomation that could damage AMD/ATI's sales.Gibbo said:
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The 8 pin doesn't give more power than the 6 pin. It has the same number of 12v conductors, just 2 more commons. But it is rated higher at 100W (or 150W depends where you look). Again the 6 pin is rated at 75W it doesn't mean its physically limited to 75W at the PSU. You could pull a lot more current through the connector before the overcurrent limit is reached. It wouldn't be wise as its beyond the rating, but that's what happens when you overclock. Eventually it'll melt, but it will go higher.Tom|Nbk said:
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Tom|Nbk said:
Aaah, didn't know that.
None of the PCI-e 2.0 specs I find mention anything about wattage so I take it it'll be the same, max 225w?