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Old 21st Nov 2009, 19:09   #1
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How to remove black borders when watching movies?

I downloaded a movie for the misses and when i run it in windows media player 11 it has a black border at the top and the bottom? I tried full screen and that didnt work? monitor is a BenQ 24" 16:9 HD

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Old 21st Nov 2009, 19:20   #2
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Personally, I use KMplayer.

It is a great player and allows you to mess around the video as much as you like.

When playing the movie press "6" and it will stretch the video to fill the screen (though this affects the aspect ratio and stretches the image), or press "7" (which I often use) where it overscans the image, so you fill the screen, preserve the aspect ratio, but loose some image from the sides.

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Old 21st Nov 2009, 19:41   #3
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Why would you want to remove the borders? The movie is shot in that aspect ratio, and it looks the best of you have it stay at that. If you stretch the movie, the picture is gonna be distorted and the proportions get's all screwy.
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Old 21st Nov 2009, 20:20   #4
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Use VLC TBH

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Old 21st Nov 2009, 20:24   #5
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I dont like the borders mate, i would rather watch movies at my monitors native aspect ratio which is 16:9

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Old 21st Nov 2009, 20:27   #6
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VLC Player For The Win, it plays EVERYTHING!!!!!

it basically is GOD in software form
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Old 21st Nov 2009, 20:52   #7
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VLC Player For The Win, it plays EVERYTHING!!!!!

it basically is GOD in software form
Quoted for truth

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Old 21st Nov 2009, 21:23   #8
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forgot to mention the BEST bit about VLC and that is...


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Old 21st Nov 2009, 21:28   #9
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VLC Player For The Win, it plays EVERYTHING!!!!!

it basically is GOD in software form
What he said.

I loves me some VLC, mmmm traffic cones...

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Old 21st Nov 2009, 21:56   #10
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I'd vote for media player classic, it has a massive amout of display options and even lets you manually size and move the video on screen.
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Old 21st Nov 2009, 22:27   #11
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Why would you want to remove the borders? The movie is shot in that aspect ratio, and it looks the best of you have it stay at that. If you stretch the movie, the picture is gonna be distorted and the proportions get's all screwy.
Indeed, hate seeing stuff stretched to fit


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Old 21st Nov 2009, 22:28   #12
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Or you could go one better than VLC, and use MPCHC

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Old 21st Nov 2009, 22:29   #13
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VLC is the way forward

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Old 21st Nov 2009, 23:28   #14
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The player won't solve your problem, read, people.

The borders are there as the film is recorded in that AR.

Lose the AR by scaling in and you lose a whole lot of movie on both left and right sides.

If you don't like the borders then ditch the 16:10 monitor and get a 16:9 one.

FWIW MPC-HC is better than VLC. I use both.


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Old 22nd Nov 2009, 00:08   #15
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He has got a 16:9, but just live with it, i know it looks ace when you screen is full but it doesnt really matter.

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Old 22nd Nov 2009, 00:29   #16
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only option here is to crop to 16:9 with vlc

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Old 22nd Nov 2009, 00:30   #17
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The player won't solve your problem, read, people.

The borders are there as the film is recorded in that AR.

Lose the AR by scaling in and you lose a whole lot of movie on both left and right sides.

If you don't like the borders then ditch the 16:10 monitor and get a 16:9 one.

FWIW MPC-HC is better than VLC. I use both.
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Old 22nd Nov 2009, 00:35   #18
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The problem might be the fact that you downloaded the film, i know its much easier but some downloaded films have a crazy aspect ratio, so much that it fills the monitor lengthways but not in height

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Old 22nd Nov 2009, 00:36   #19
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I've just picked up 3 DVD's on my desk.

One is 2.4:1, the other two are 2.35:1. Turn your boxes over and have a look for yourself, it says on the back.

neither of those equate to 16:9


Just because you've gone and bought yourself an 'HD' monitor doesn't mean all films magically fit. If you remove the black bars you'll have a horribly distorted picture or you'll crop stuff off, view it as it was intended!
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Old 22nd Nov 2009, 00:42   #20
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The problem might be the fact that you downloaded the film, i know its much easier but some downloaded films have a crazy aspect ratio, so much that it fills the monitor lengthways but not in height
Most DVDs/Blu Rays use anamorphic widescreen (ie 1.85:1 to 2.39:1) to present films - its certainly not exclusive to naughtily downloaded movies, they are likely just preserving the source AR.

Most TV shows these days use 16:9 - so they will fill the OP's screen, but most movies will leave black bars - unless he crops the film to fit the screen. This isn't the best solution - but if you REALLY need the extra viewing area then it may be better than watching the film in teeny weeny vision.

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Ahhhh, thanks for that info =] Although, once you get into the film, you dont even notice the black lines. well, i don't anyway

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Old 22nd Nov 2009, 01:06   #22
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vlc didn't play nicely with rmbv last time I checked. Otherwise I agree it does very well, and also that this issue is going to be media player independent.

As already stated, your options are to crop the image or distort it to fill the screen, which setting is needed depends on the dimensions of the video in question. Whether you crop or stretch depends on how you feel about what happens on the edges of the screen. I'm afraid that's basically it for your options.
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Old 22nd Nov 2009, 01:07   #23
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Crop 1.85:1, Its the best solution for those anamorphic Films. It is very annoying but till they make anamorphic tv's which would look really wide and silly lol, you will always be stuck with the black bars. Vlc is the best software you can get, I have used all the other's like media player classic, But I much prefere VLC. The 1.85.1 wont cut all the bar out but cuts it down so you dont really notice it and preserving a good picture IMHO.
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I've posted this sooooo many times in the Movies section...
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Aspect ratio Description
1.19:1 "Movietone" - early 35 mm sound film ratio used in the late 1920s and early 1930s, especially in Europe. The optical soundtrack was placed on the side of the 1.33 frame, thus reducing the width of the frame. The Academy Aperture frame (1.37) fixed this by making the frame lines thicker. The best examples of this ratio are Fritz Lang's first sound films: M and The Testament of Dr. Mabuse. This is also roughly identical to the ratio of the physical frame used for anamorphic photography today.

1.25:1 The British 405 line TV system used this aspect ratio from its beginning in the 1930s until 1950 when it changed to the more common 1.33 format.

1.33:1 35 mm original silent film ratio, commonly known in TV and video as 4:3. Also standard ratio for MPEG-2 video compression.

1.37:1 35 mm full-screen sound film image, nearly universal in movies between 1932 and 1953. Officially adopted as the Academy ratio in 1932 by AMPAS. Still occasionally used. Also standard 16 mm.

1.43:1 IMAX format.

1.5:1 The aspect ratio of 35 mm film used for still photography.

1.56:1 Widescreen aspect ratio 14:9. Often used in shooting commercials etc. as a compromise format between 4:3 (12:9) and 16:9, especially when the output will be used in both standard TV and widescreen. When converted to a 16:9 frame, there is slight pillarboxing, while conversion to 4:3 creates slight letterboxing.

1.66:1 35 mm European widescreen standard; native Super 16 mm frame ratio. (5:3, sometimes expressed more accurately as "1.67".)

1.75:1 Early 35 mm widescreen ratio, primarily used by MGM, and since abandoned.

1.78:1 Video widescreen standard (16:9), used in high-definition television, One of three ratios specified for MPEG-2 video compression.

**-**

1.85:1 35 mm US and UK widescreen standard for theatrical film. Uses approximately 3 perforations ("perfs") of image space per 4 perf frame; films can be shot in 3-perf to save cost of film stock.

2:1 Original SuperScope ratio, also used in Univisium.

2.2:1 70 mm standard. Originally developed for Todd-AO in the 1950s. 2.21:1 is specified for MPEG-2 but not used.

2.35:1 35 mm anamorphic prior to 1970, used by CinemaScope ("'Scope") and early Panavision. The anamorphic standard has subtly changed so that modern anamorphic productions are actually 2.39,[1] but often referred to as 2.35 anyway, due to old convention. (Note that anamorphic refers to the compression of the image on film to maximize a standard 4 perf academy area but presents the widest of aspect ratios.)

2.39:1 35 mm anamorphic from 1970 onwards. Sometimes rounded up to 2.40.[1] Often commercially branded as Panavision format or 'Scope.

2.55:1 Original aspect ratio of CinemaScope before optical sound was added to the film. This was also the aspect ratio of CinemaScope 55.

2.59:1 Cinerama at full height (three specially captured 35 mm images projected side-by-side into one composite widescreen image).

2.76:1 MGM Camera 65 (65 mm with 1.25x anamorphic squeeze). Used only on a handful of films between 1956 and 1964, such as Ben-Hur (1959).

4:1 Polyvision, three 35 mm 1.33 images projected side by side. Used only on Abel Gance's Napoléon (1927).

Anything filmed in an aspect ratio below the **-** will result in bars top and bottom.
if you want to get rid of the black bars top and bottom of the movie, ditch the 16:9 monitor and get a 2.35:1 monitor!!.. otherwise everyone will look like they're about 10 feet tall!!

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