Can you improve and make this build cheaper

Final Opinions on AMD & i5 build?

Hi so I'm looking for a new gaming PC for £1000 and under. I've been on another forum and been recommended the following build. If you could improve on this build and make it cheaper at the same time then please do. It would be greatly appreciated!

1 x MSI Geforce GTX 770 Gaming Edition 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £239.99
1 x Intel Core i5-4670K 3.40GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - OEM £161.99
1 x iiyama Prolite XU2390 23" Widescreen Slim Bezel LED Multimedia Monitor - Black £125.99
1 x MSI Z87-G45 Gaming Series Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £106.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00614) £74.99
1 x Corsair RM Series RM 550 '80+ Gold' 550W Power Supply (CP-9020053-UK) £71.99
1 x Avexir Core Red Series 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (AVD3U16000904G-2CIR) £59.99
1 x Corsair Carbide 200R Compact ATX Case - Black (CC-9011023-WW) £47.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DM003) HDD £43.99
1 x Corsair Raptor K30 Gaming Keyboard (CH-9000043-UK) £40.00
1 x Corsair Raptor M30 Gaming Mouse (CH-9000042-EU) £34.99
1 x Cooler Master Hyper 412S CPU Cooler £28.99
1 x OcUK 20x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £16.99
Total : £1,069.87 (includes shipping : £12.50).

Hi.

Can you list what parts you need (tower, OS, monitor etc) so a system using parts from OcUK can be done.

stulid said:

Hi.

Can you list what parts you need (tower, OS, monitor etc) so a system using parts from OcUK can be done.

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Why can't I just link you them like I did. It got removed for some reason?

Anyways here's a screenshot of the parts (now without the prices)...
http://i.imgur.com/V9YD8gn.png

Because you are linking competitor prices.

You can build your system on OC and link that though...

ThePoundDollar said:

Why can't I just link you them like I did. It got removed for some reason?

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OcUK do not spend thousands of pounds a year to run the forum which costs you nothing to use for people to then go about promoting competitor products and prices.

All this is in the forum FAQ's, the same ones you clicked "I agree" too when you signed up.

xs2man said:

You can build your system on OC and link that though...

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Didn't know that sorry(I'm new here). But still it seems silly if I've already got it built. I was only asking to improve the price plus it wasn't even my build :/

Best thing would be to tell us what you need, what your budget is and what the system will be used for. Them one of the system builders will spec you something.

Personally I would change the Case, PSU & CPU cooler of the build you imaged. Also I would add an SSD for quick boot times, but without a budget thats by-the-by.

If you can post us a list of what they specced, that'd work too.

Example.

i5 4670k
Z87-UD3H

ect...

Otherwise ill be speccing blind.

So what I'm wanting is a nice powerful machine that I can use for gaming. I'm going to need everything; the case, monitor, mouse, keyboard, ect. The games I'm wanting to play are SimCity 5, Minecraft, and possibly in the future some big AAA games. I'm also currently doing A-Level computing (in the first year) and will hopefully be continuing programming at Uni in something related to game development. So I'll be using it to program as well (which I imagine the machine would already be capable of). My budget is £1000 and under. Also I'm completely new to computer building so I haven't got a clue what CPU is best or what GPU ect.

Doomedspeed said:

If you can post us a list of what they specced, that'd work too.

Example.

i5 4670k
Z87-UD3H

ect...

Otherwise ill be speccing blind.

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That's all in a screenshot in one of my posts
The third one to be precise

YOUR BASKET
1 x Powercolor Radeon R9 270X DEVIL 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £169.99
1 x Intel Core i5-4670K 3.40GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £167.99
1 x Gigabyte Z87X-UD4H Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard with *FREE COOLERMASTER SEIDON 120V COOLER £143.99
1 x Asus VE247H 24" Widescreen LED Multimedia Monitor - Black £139.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00614) £74.99
1 x BitFenix Ronin Tower Case - Black £69.95
1 x TeamGroup Xtreem LV 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-21300C11 2666MHz Dual Channel Kit (TXD38G2666HC11CDC01) £67.99
1 x SuperFlower Golden Green HX 550W "80 Plus Gold" Power Supply - Black £59.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DM003) HDD £44.99
1 x OcUK 20x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £16.99
1 x Gigabyte M6900 3200DPI Gaming Mouse £16.99
1 x Zalman ZM-K350M Gaming Keyboard £11.99
Total : £1,002.34 (includes shipping : £13.75).




Or go with AMD and you can get a better GFX card and SSD,

YOUR BASKET
1 x MSI Radeon R9 280X Gaming Edition OC 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £245.99
1 x AMD Piledriver FX-8 Eight Core 8320 Black Edition 3.50GHz (Socket AM3+) Processor - Retail £119.99
1 x Iiyama Prolite E2483HS-B1 24" Widescreen LED Monitor - Black £119.99
1 x Asus M5A97 EVO R2.0 AMD 970 (Socket AM3+) DDR3 Motherboard £74.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00614) £74.99
1 x BitFenix Ronin Tower Case - Black £69.95
1 x Kingston 120GB SSDNow V300 Drive SATA 6Gb/s 3 2.5" (7mm height) Solid State Hard Drive - (SV300S37A/120G) £59.99
1 x SuperFlower Golden Green HX 550W "80 Plus Gold" Power Supply - Black £59.99
1 x TeamGroup Vulcan ORANGE 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C11 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit (TLAD38G2400HC11CDC01) £55.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DM003) HDD £43.99
1 x Raijintek Themis Direct Contact CPU Cooler £17.99
1 x OcUK 20x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £16.99
1 x Gigabyte M6900 3200DPI Gaming Mouse £16.99
1 x Zalman ZM-K350M Gaming Keyboard £11.99
Total : £1,006.31 (includes shipping : £13.75).

Stulid's look good. I put somthing together pretty similar - skimped a bit on the PSU but should be ok:

YOUR BASKET
1 x MSI Radeon R9 280X Gaming Edition OC 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £245.99
1 x Intel Core i5-4670K 3.40GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £167.99
1 x Iiyama Prolite E2483HS-B1 24" Widescreen LED Monitor - Black £119.99
1 x Gigabyte Z87-HD3 Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £82.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00614) £74.99
1 x BitFenix Ronin Tower Case - Black £69.95
1 x Kingston 120GB SSDNow V300 Drive SATA 6Gb/s 3 2.5" (7mm height) Solid State Hard Drive - (SV300S37A/120G) £59.99
1 x TeamGroup Vulcan ORANGE 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C11 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit (TLAD38G2400HC11CDC01) £55.99
1 x SuperFlower Amazon 550W "80 Plus Bronze" Power Supply £49.99
1 x Raijintek Themis Direct Contact CPU Cooler £17.99
1 x OcUK 20x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £16.99
1 x Zalman ZM-K350M Gaming Keyboard £11.99
1 x Gigabyte M6800 1600DPI Gaming Mouse £7.79
Total : £999.12 (includes shipping : £13.75).

For reference, the closest I could get to your original build was this if you want to edit it into your first post:

YOUR BASKET
1 x MSI Geforce GTX 770 Gaming Edition 2048MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £239.99
1 x Intel Core i5-4670K 3.40GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - OEM £161.99
1 x iiyama Prolite XU2390 23" Widescreen Slim Bezel LED Multimedia Monitor - Black £125.99
1 x MSI Z87-G45 Gaming Series Intel Z87 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £106.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00614) £74.99
1 x Corsair RM Series RM 550 '80+ Gold' 550W Power Supply (CP-9020053-UK) £71.99
1 x Avexir Core Red Series 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory Kit (AVD3U16000904G-2CIR) £59.99
1 x Corsair Carbide 200R Compact ATX Case - Black (CC-9011023-WW) £47.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DM003) HDD £43.99
1 x Corsair Raptor K30 Gaming Keyboard (CH-9000043-UK) £40.00
1 x Corsair Raptor M30 Gaming Mouse (CH-9000042-EU) £34.99
1 x Cooler Master Hyper 412S CPU Cooler £28.99
1 x OcUK 20x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £16.99
Total : £1,069.87 (includes shipping : £12.50).



(Apparently OcUK don't sell RAT mice anymore)

edit: if you hit quote to copy/paste you'll get all the links as well

stulid said:

Or go with AMD and you can get a better GFX card and SSD,

YOUR BASKET
1 x MSI Radeon R9 280X Gaming Edition OC 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £245.99
1 x AMD Piledriver FX-8 Eight Core 8320 Black Edition 3.50GHz (Socket AM3+) Processor - Retail £119.99
1 x Iiyama Prolite E2483HS-B1 24" Widescreen LED Monitor - Black £119.99
1 x Asus M5A97 EVO R2.0 AMD 970 (Socket AM3+) DDR3 Motherboard £74.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00614) £74.99
1 x BitFenix Ronin Tower Case - Black £69.95
1 x Kingston 120GB SSDNow V300 Drive SATA 6Gb/s 3 2.5" (7mm height) Solid State Hard Drive - (SV300S37A/120G) £59.99
1 x SuperFlower Golden Green HX 550W "80 Plus Gold" Power Supply - Black £59.99
1 x TeamGroup Vulcan ORANGE 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-19200C11 2400MHz Dual Channel Kit (TLAD38G2400HC11CDC01) £55.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DM003) HDD £43.99
1 x Raijintek Themis Direct Contact CPU Cooler £17.99
1 x OcUK 20x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £16.99
1 x Gigabyte M6900 3200DPI Gaming Mouse £16.99
1 x Zalman ZM-K350M Gaming Keyboard £11.99
Total : £1,006.31 (includes shipping : £13.75).

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Okay I've asked around and I think I'm gonna go with this build. Just want to make a few modifications though. Could you increase the RAM size because I've been recommended to? Also is there any other keyboard that's something like the Corsair Raptor K30 and either the same price or cheaper? Oh and just a few final questions:

1. Is the power supply large enough?
2. Is the cooling fan decent or is it loud and unreliable?
3. Will the case be able to fit everything in?
4. If I find that some things don't fit in or something like that, can I return the products?

EDIT: Forgot to mention is the overall quality of the build good. I'm not paying for mediocre components am I?

1) yes it is large enough
2) Its decent - http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Raijintek/Themis/9.html
3) yes it will fit it all in
4) Sure, OcUK have a 14day DSR period.


As that spec is out dated what with price changes and deals, here's an updated spec,


YOUR BASKET
1 x VTX3D Radeon R9 280X 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £209.99
1 x Iiyama Prolite E2483HS-B1 24" Widescreen LED Monitor - Black £129.95
1 x AMD Piledriver FX-8 Eight Core 8320 Black Edition 3.50GHz (Socket AM3+) Processor - Retail £119.99
1 x TeamGroup Elite Black 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C11 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (TED316GM1600HC11DC01) £109.99
1 x Asus M5A97 EVO R2.0 AMD 970 (Socket AM3+) DDR3 Motherboard £74.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00614) £74.99
1 x BitFenix Ronin Tower Case - Black £69.95
1 x BeQuiet Pure Power L8 530W '80 Plus Bronze' Modular Power Supply - With 120mm Silent Wing Fan Built in £59.99
1 x Crucial M500 120GB SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive - (CT120M500SSD1) £59.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DM003) HDD £43.99
1 x TT eSports Knucker Plunger Gaming keyboard £39.98
1 x Deepcool GAMMAXX S40 CPU-Cooler - 120mm £19.99
1 x Pioneer 24x Internal DVR-221LBK DVD Rewriter - OEM £17.99
1 x Gigabyte M6900 3200DPI Gaming Mouse £16.99
Total : £1,065.26 (includes shipping : £13.75).



I have given you 16Gb, but for gaming you only need 8GB.

ThePoundDollar said:

Okay I've asked around and I think I'm gonna go with this build. Just want to make a few modifications though. Could you increase the RAM size because I've been recommended to? Also is there any other keyboard that's something like the Corsair Raptor K30 and either the same price or cheaper? Oh and just a few final questions:

1. Is the power supply large enough?
2. Is the cooling fan decent or is it loud and unreliable?
3. Will the case be able to fit everything in?
4. If I find that some things don't fit in or something like that, can I return the products?

EDIT: Forgot to mention is the overall quality of the build good. I'm not paying for mediocre components am I?

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Its a good solid build. OC don't stock generic/bad quality items that you sometimes find in cheaper pre-builds.

That's the beauty of building it yourself you know exactly what's in the system.

stulid said:

1) yes it is large enough
2) Its decent - http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Raijintek/Themis/9.html
3) yes it will fit it all in
4) Sure, OcUK have a 14day DSR period.


As that spec is out dated what with price changes and deals, here's an updated spec,


YOUR BASKET
1 x VTX3D Radeon R9 280X 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £209.99
1 x Iiyama Prolite E2483HS-B1 24" Widescreen LED Monitor - Black £129.95
1 x AMD Piledriver FX-8 Eight Core 8320 Black Edition 3.50GHz (Socket AM3+) Processor - Retail £119.99
1 x TeamGroup Elite Black 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C11 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (TED316GM1600HC11DC01) £109.99
1 x Asus M5A97 EVO R2.0 AMD 970 (Socket AM3+) DDR3 Motherboard £74.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00614) £74.99
1 x BitFenix Ronin Tower Case - Black £69.95
1 x BeQuiet Pure Power L8 530W '80 Plus Bronze' Modular Power Supply - With 120mm Silent Wing Fan Built in £59.99
1 x Crucial M500 120GB SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive - (CT120M500SSD1) £59.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DM003) HDD £43.99
1 x TT eSports Knucker Plunger Gaming keyboard £39.98
1 x Deepcool GAMMAXX S40 CPU-Cooler - 120mm £19.99
1 x Pioneer 24x Internal DVR-221LBK DVD Rewriter - OEM £17.99
1 x Gigabyte M6900 3200DPI Gaming Mouse £16.99
Total : £1,065.26 (includes shipping : £13.75).



I have given you 16Gb, but for gaming you only need 8GB.

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Ah well if you say I only need 8GB of RAM, then I'll just do that. Also why is the Radeon R9 280X and basically every other graphics card supplied by different companies. Is there any difference? The only thing I can see it that the MSI one in the previous build had a core boost of 1050MHz whereas the one from VTX3D is only 1000MHz, oh and the sticker, can't forget the sticker

The speed difference is minimal, 50Mhz is peanuts on the grand scheme of things, its the price, it really is a good deal.

There is a years less warranty.


Just saved you another £3 with this all black board,

YOUR BASKET
1 x VTX3D Radeon R9 280X 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £209.99
1 x Iiyama Prolite E2483HS-B1 24" Widescreen LED Monitor - Black £129.95
1 x AMD Piledriver FX-8 Eight Core 8320 Black Edition 3.50GHz (Socket AM3+) Processor - Retail £119.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00614) £74.99
1 x Gigabyte 970A-UD3P AMD 970 (Socket AM3+) DDR3 Motherboard £71.99
1 x BitFenix Ronin Tower Case - Black £69.95
1 x BeQuiet Pure Power L8 530W '80 Plus Bronze' Modular Power Supply - With 120mm Silent Wing Fan Built in £59.99
1 x Crucial M500 120GB SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive - (CT120M500SSD1) £59.99
1 x TeamGroup Elite Black 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C11 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (TED38GM1600HC11DC01) £53.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DM003) HDD £43.99
1 x TT eSports Knucker Plunger Gaming keyboard £39.98
1 x Deepcool GAMMAXX S40 CPU-Cooler - 120mm £19.99
1 x Pioneer 24x Internal DVR-221LBK DVD Rewriter - OEM £17.99
1 x Gigabyte M6900 3200DPI Gaming Mouse £16.99
Total : £1,006.26 (includes shipping : £13.75).

stulid said:

The speed difference is minimal, 50Mhz is peanuts on the grand scheme of things, its the price, it really is a good deal.

There is a years less warranty.


Just saved you another £3 with this all black board,

YOUR BASKET
1 x VTX3D Radeon R9 280X 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £209.99
1 x Iiyama Prolite E2483HS-B1 24" Widescreen LED Monitor - Black £129.95
1 x AMD Piledriver FX-8 Eight Core 8320 Black Edition 3.50GHz (Socket AM3+) Processor - Retail £119.99
1 x Microsoft Windows 8.1 64-Bit DVD - OEM (WN7-00614) £74.99
1 x Gigabyte 970A-UD3P AMD 970 (Socket AM3+) DDR3 Motherboard £71.99
1 x BitFenix Ronin Tower Case - Black £69.95
1 x BeQuiet Pure Power L8 530W '80 Plus Bronze' Modular Power Supply - With 120mm Silent Wing Fan Built in £59.99
1 x Crucial M500 120GB SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive - (CT120M500SSD1) £59.99
1 x TeamGroup Elite Black 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C11 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit (TED38GM1600HC11DC01) £53.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DM003) HDD £43.99
1 x TT eSports Knucker Plunger Gaming keyboard £39.98
1 x Deepcool GAMMAXX S40 CPU-Cooler - 120mm £19.99
1 x Pioneer 24x Internal DVR-221LBK DVD Rewriter - OEM £17.99
1 x Gigabyte M6900 3200DPI Gaming Mouse £16.99
Total : £1,006.26 (includes shipping : £13.75).

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What happened to the RAM. The other 8GB one on the older build had 2400 MHz. This only has 1600