Data destruction software - your experience and reviews

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In light of the news over the past few days regarding data theft on old PCs I thought I might start a thread that we can use to dispell a few myths regarding how hard disks handle data and what we can do to manage it. Most of us are aware that when you delete a file the file isn't actually taken off the disk and it is only 'gone' when it has been overwritten by another file. Does the story end there? How does Windows actually handle its data? Well lets find out by pooling our knowledge.

I have a couple of pieces of data destruction software to test, a data recovery suite and I have tried a number of physical methods that have been used to some success. I'll start with the physical methods as they are most brutal but defintely the most effective and work onto the software afterwards.

PART 1, MANUAL AND PHYSICAL METHODS:

Complete physical destruction:

This might sound obvious but the only way you can be certain there is nothing left on the disk for someone to steal is to smash the hard disk to pieces with a hammer. Start with the top, break through the cover and make sure the disk platter inside is broken.

Semi destruction:

Not quite so obvious but by removing the cover that protects the disk platter renders the disk inoperable. However, the data is still in place and with the right equipment it is probable that the data can be recovered.

Overwriting, manual:

You need a big file for this to not take too long. Ideally the file is the complete size of the disk, but this is not normally possible so grab a giant file like a DVD image or something equally anonymous, and copy it onto the disk. Cope it on again with a different name, again and again until the disk is full and you have overwritten everything.

The only traces of your old data should be reduced to residual magnetism on the disk surface and maybe on a backup copy of the file table, but generally it should be unreadable.

PART 2, SOFTWARE:

Here I'm going to test a couple of data destruction suites and see what's left behind using a data recovery program that scours the disk for old files.

Windows:

DO NOT trust Windows to completely wipe your data. When you delete a file "permanently" it is taken out of the list in the file table but the data itself is left in place on the hard disk and labelled as free space. Recovery software scours the hard disk for data of this sort and copies it to another disk or partition. Later on this data may get semi-overwritten by temporary internet files but generally it is left in place until the space is needed.

Paragon Disk Wiper 7:

Full version was given away with PCW magazine in August but it claims to be a fairly comprehensive data wiping program. It can clear whole disks, whole partitions or just clear the free space on a working partition. It overwrites the unused space with either a preset algorithm or with an algorithm of your own choice. You have two options, you can either run the program through Windows or boot with a CD and run it through DOS of sort.

A selection of files were deleted, the recycle bin emptied and the program was run through Windows using the preset algorithm. Once the computer had rebooted recovery software was used to see what was left.

Basically it found everything, so not good news. Some images were complete, some were just headers but it looked like all the file names from the deleted files were complete. On running the program from the bootable CD the same results occurred. So this program gets a thumbs down.

To be continued...

Later in the week I'll be testing EastTec Eraser, another magazine full program giveaway. Please add to this thread how data is actually managed on the hard disk, what you know about NTFS file tables and what software you've tried in the past and to what success. It'll be very enlightening to see if freeware tools are better or worse than their pay per view counterparts. I'd be pretty irritated if I'd paid for software like Paragon only to find my data was still in place.
 
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I use Eraser - does what it says on the tin, and it's free.

I do know that if you overwrite the drive once with a file, there is stil a chance of getting files back, albeit not a very good chance.

On any drive I wipe for eBay, and suchlike, I always give them a once over with a 35 pass wipe. If I'm bored, I'll maybe do it again. :)

I reckon the best bet would be do to a 35 pass wipe, delete all partition from the drive, then zero fill it.
 
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When Decomissioning machines at work I've been using Datagone from the imagequest Deploycentre library, and I'll usually run 2-3 passes.

When previously working at Fujitsu a large sledgehammer was used....... :D :D
 
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Sputnik II said:
What recovery software you using Jonny?
Easy Recovery from Ontrack. It's got to be the best I've ever used for finding old partitions, deleted files and corrupted file tables etc. However it also finds a hell of a lot of stuff you never knew was still there!

doran1801 said:
you cold also perform a low level format which basically write a series or zeros to your hd i think so in theory would effectively erase all data
That is true but I don't think you can do this with formatting programs anymore, although I might well be wrong. We had a discussion about this a while back and the conclusion was they do error checking as they format but no complete wipe.

I'm especially interested to find out how Windows uses the free space on the disk. My suspicions are it doesn't touch any deleted files until it reaches the end of the hard disk, then it comes back and fills gaps, overwriting old files. On a 300+Gb hard disk in a normal everyday machine that is a HELL of a history of deleted files that are on there before it gets to the end, so it's no wonder data theft is becoming rife.

Even when you format, where exactly does the disk place the data? Does it place it after what was originlly on there and then work back when the disk is full or just start fresh and overwrite anyway? From a data recovery point of view on a giant hard disk he former option would make sense.
 
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Just had a go with Eraser 5.8 (freeware) as recommended by Basmic.

It's not hugely user friendly when the program is opened but it has all the features of a paid for program like Paragon hidden in the settings. Basically you set a new task which sits in a list until you tell the computer to go ahead and make the changes. In this case I set it to clear the free space on my Windows partition using the standard settings so I was expecting it to clear the plethora of old deleted temp internet files that sit there and the folder of test files I had deleted with the recycle bin. The process took about 3/4 of an hour on a 7Gb partition and you can continue to work while it is clearing free space even the Windows partition.

Looking what was left behind it appears to have destroyed the data to the point that Easy Recovery couldn't see it or the file structure which is sometimes left behind. What was left were a few files in a directory but filenames were overwritten with lots of 0's and the content appeared to be empty, but these could be files that are created during a reboot.
 
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Did anyone see the Real Story programme last night which covered this subject. The reporters purchased about 17 hard drives in Nigeria and 10 of them turned out to contain data from British users who had thought their PC had been recycled. It seems it is cheaper to sell the hardware on than recycle it properly. :(

They found bank details, company spreadsheets, personal information and photos, in fact, everything your common or garden Nigerian spammer needs to fleece you and others of vast sums of money.

I wouldn't trust any software at OS level to destroy the data properly. Only a major and slow overwrite of random data or zeros can be trusted. Even then, if you have the right kit, time and inclination, it is still possible to recover some data. I always sanitise a hard drive I give away, recycle or sell with at least 7 passes of random data and then one pass of zeros using Webroot WIndow Washer boot disk, Killdisk or similar.
 
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doran1801 said:
you cold also perform a low level format which basically write a series or zeros to your hd i think so in theory would effectively erase all data

Right, I thought I'd clarify. Low level formatting (LLF) does NOT write a alternating bit parttern to the disc. It does NOT wipe data from the drive.

LLF is seldom done by the end user anymore; it is now usually only done in the factory. The whole point of LLF, is to write encode track and sector markers on the disk. Data is still recoverable with specialist software.

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Jonny69 said:
Just had a go with Eraser 5.8 (freeware) as recommended by Basmic.

It's not hugely user friendly when the program is opened but it has all the features of a paid for program like Paragon hidden in the settings. Basically you set a new task which sits in a list until you tell the computer to go ahead and make the changes. In this case I set it to clear the free space on my Windows partition using the standard settings so I was expecting it to clear the plethora of old deleted temp internet files that sit there and the folder of test files I had deleted with the recycle bin. The process took about 3/4 of an hour on a 7Gb partition and you can continue to work while it is clearing free space even the Windows partition.

Looking what was left behind it appears to have destroyed the data to the point that Easy Recovery couldn't see it or the file structure which is sometimes left behind. What was left were a few files in a directory but filenames were overwritten with lots of 0's and the content appeared to be empty, but these could be files that are created during a reboot.
As daunting as it can first seem, you're getting a good selection of erasing options for free. :p
 
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AJUK said:
Did anyone see the Real Story programme last night which covered this subject. The reporters purchased about 17 hard drives in Nigeria and 10 of them turned out to contain data from British users who had thought their PC had been recycled. It seems it is cheaper to sell the hardware on than recycle it properly. :(

I watched this for its 'wow' factor. I find these programs tend to make people anti-technology, People like my mother are now convinced that computers, mobile phones, the internet and just about any other form of useful technology is unsafe to use. Not because they are but, because thats how television and newspapers make them seem.

If you want to be really safe why not just remove the hard drive from the system before you dump it and either keep it (like I do) or smash it up with a sledge hammer.
 
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Sorry to ask silly questions but.......

If one is going to pass on his computer to an ageing aunt... would he not reformat and install the operating system? Then if he ran any of the suggested software to overwrite the hard drive would it not remove the OS? Would he have to do this several times, ie install OS, run the software, install OS ad infinitum?

How would one know if the previous data was destroyed?

Would one have to remove all programs less OS (might be difficult, because windows often refuses to remove them for you) run the software in the hope that it overwrites everything less the space used by the OS? I read once that windows leaves spaces when installing programms, ie, a directory might say 2 MB of space used for 10 files, but the actual space used could be 1 MB and 1 MB could be free space, where presumably part of an old photo, bank account number could still be laying around?

I think the hammer would be a good bet.

When I read the Opening thread - after the smashing with a hammer paragraphs it mentioned "files" and my mind flashed to industrial files, like the ones used to file through hand-cuffs etc. :) Very good thread, I just wish I could understand it a bit more!

Paranoics too have real enemies. Thank goodness my aunt doesn't live in Nigeria!

I too think this topic would make a good sticky. Thanx
 
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