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ATI 5970 Engineering Sample

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Not mine but posted from another forum, looks like they did downclock the core but it's going to be no slouch that's for sure!

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ATI seriously need to pay the Longcat creator some monies and start putting long cat stickers on the cards instead of having them plain :)
 
This must be the "lower end" one, I assume a higher end model will come out with 2GB

gpuz screenshot shows only 1600 shaders, so i assume its displaying 1 gpu at a time in gpuz, so its possible its showing 1gb ram per gpu and the card does have 2gb ram in total.
 
gpuz screenshot shows only 1600 shaders, so i assume its displaying 1 gpu at a time in gpuz, so its possible its showing 1gb ram per gpu and the card does have 2gb ram in total.

Yes, but it will most likely be 1gb usable.

If a 2GB 5870 SKU is due, it makes sense that a 59xx SKU is due with 2x2GB (2gb addressable)
 
Considering a single 5870 is no wattage monster, I would guess the X2 would be good in the power draw department. The 5870 is very long card, if this is any longer then thats just crazy IMO.
 
This must be the "lower end" one, I assume a higher end model will come out with 2GB

I agree with Cyber-Mav that this is probably showing specs per core. And by the looks of the device ID this engineering sample is the highest end card if we use the details of the opencl beta driver information:

"ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series" = ati2mtag_Evergreen, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68B8
"ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series " = ati2mtag_Evergreen, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68B9
"ATI Radeon HD 5700 Series " = ati2mtag_Evergreen, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68BE
"ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series" = ati2mtag_Evergreen, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6898
"ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series " = ati2mtag_Evergreen, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6899
"ATI Radeon HD 5900 Series" = ati2mtag_Evergreen, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_689C
"ATI Radeon HD 5900 Series " = ati2mtag_Evergreen, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_689D
"EG CEDAR" = ati2mtag_Evergreen, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68E8
"EG CEDAR " = ati2mtag_Evergreen, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68E9
"EG CEDAR " = ati2mtag_Evergreen, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68F8
"EG CEDAR " = ati2mtag_Evergreen, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68F9
"EG CEDAR " = ati2mtag_Evergreen, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68FE
"EG REDWOOD" = ati2mtag_Evergreen, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68C8
"EG REDWOOD " = ati2mtag_Evergreen, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68C9
"EG REDWOOD " = ati2mtag_Evergreen, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68D8
"EG REDWOOD " = ati2mtag_Evergreen, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68D9
"EG REDWOOD " = ati2mtag_Evergreen, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68DE

The GPU-Z information for the 5800 cards has the highest last character of the ID as the lower model of the two. E.g. the 5870 = 6898, the 5850 = 6899. One should suspect that if they're using the same logic the 689D = 5950 and the 689C as shown in the OP should be the 5970.

Also, here's a bonus picture for everyone:

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So an extra two pins huh?

Nice one. Hoping to see 5850 prices drop when this gets out :P

Edit: Though these pictures seem familiar to me.
 
At £450 it would be a steal compared to a current 5870xfire setup being £600.

Its difficult to see where they will price the two versions though, as shaders make little difference between the 5850/5870, just the clock speeds, a 5950 at lower clock speeds, well it "should" be priced under 2x5850's. So we could see a 5950 around £400, and a 5890 at around £500.

Is there definately a 2gb 5870? I can't see it as worthwhile tbh, theres maybe one game that will help in, remembering that ATi still have massively more efficient memory usage compared to Nvidia. The only issue being Nvidia's probably 1.5GB being a marketing win. We might just see a 5950 at those clocks, at £450, and a 5890 for show, at £600, with 4gb mem, just so Nvidia can't play the "we might suck and be 6 months late, but look, we've got more mem, we win" card.

Either way, the 5950 seems like the card to get if you want more than a single cards worth of power, after Fermi hits when the 5850 probably drops towards £175, a 5950 will probably also drop to around £300-350 after the 5870 has been dropped down a lot aswell.

5850 will last me till Fermi hits and a 5950 becomes ridiculous value.
 
So looks like 5970 will be slower than 5870CF.

I reckon so, faster latencies may help it a tad but the lower clocks will make it slower.

However you can always clock it :p It's most likely only downclocked for TDP issues, for those more hardcore I bet this card under water will do interesting things.
 
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