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Old 8th Nov 2010, 22:17   #1
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GTX 580 Review

Not sure how long this will last.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/N...GTX_580/1.html

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/N...580_SLI/1.html

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Old 8th Nov 2010, 22:19   #2
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The conclusion from the review incase the site goes down which is almost certain:

•NVIDIA's GeForce GTX 580 comes at an MSRP of $499.


Pro

•Substantial performance improvement over GTX 480
•Large reduction in power consumption vs. GTX 480
•Quieter than other cards in this performance class
•Native HDMI output
•Software voltage control
•Support for DirectX 11
•Support for CUDA / PhysX

Con

•Still not as power efficient as AMD's designs
•Current limiter could complicate advanced overclocking
•Still limited to two active display outputs per card
•High price
•DirectX 11 relevance very limited at this time


Got an editors choice award.

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Old 8th Nov 2010, 22:21   #3
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Interesting for overclockers that if the card draws more than 300W it drops the speed

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Old 8th Nov 2010, 22:22   #4
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The conclusion there is a bit baffling.

Though I guess it kind of comes down to what the reviewer has deemed 'substantial performance improvement'.
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Old 8th Nov 2010, 22:23   #5
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Substantial performance improvement over GTX 480
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Old 8th Nov 2010, 22:25   #6
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I would say 'improved performance over 480'...I think substantial is a bit strong
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Old 8th Nov 2010, 22:26   #7
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The card is quieter than any other high-end card
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Old 8th Nov 2010, 22:26   #8
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Overclock of 8% is fugly.

Still slower than 5970...uses the same ammount of power.

Its nice and quiet though!

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Old 8th Nov 2010, 22:27   #9
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Yes thank you raven ive already posted all that above...

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Old 8th Nov 2010, 22:27   #10
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Its nice to see new tech hit the market...but I think everyone is feeling that we have only just been given what the GTX 480 SHOULD have been....opinions???
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Old 8th Nov 2010, 22:28   #11
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HOw much is this card going to cost?
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Old 8th Nov 2010, 22:28   #12
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Its nice to see new tech hit the market...but I think everyone is feeling that we have only just been given what the GTX 480 SHOULD have been....opinions???
More than likely, if you clock this to th 480 speeds id assume thats what nvidia were aiming for last year.

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Old 8th Nov 2010, 22:30   #13
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Look at the review raven and tell me thats a substantial improvement over a gtx480. Its a decent improvement at best. The overclocking i am not sure about i have seen some gtx480's with them clocks so i imagine as i said clock v clock you will gain 10% going to a gtx580 from a gtx480.

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Old 8th Nov 2010, 22:30   #14
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Overclock of 8% is fugly.

Still slower than 5970...uses the same ammount of power.
But alot quiter than a 5970.
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Old 8th Nov 2010, 22:32   #15
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Looking good, About 5970 performance but wrapped up in single GPU goodness.

He's still benching Dirt 2 in DX9, FFS.
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Old 8th Nov 2010, 22:33   #16
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I might get it. Just need some damn prices now!
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Old 8th Nov 2010, 22:34   #17
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gonna wait a while i think, just to see the 6970 reviews in a few weeks.
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Old 8th Nov 2010, 22:34   #18
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Im running the KFA2 Anarchy edition GTX 480 (oc'd to 870 MHz Core).

I would see neglagible gains from a 580! What a shame as I was really hoping for a viable reason to get a 580.

Will be a very good card without a doubt...but certainly nothing groundbreaking or miles ahead of current top end cards
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Old 8th Nov 2010, 22:34   #19
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Results look as expected with a 10% overclock, 7% more Stream Processors over a gtx480.

I am glad nvidia ditched the crappy cooler thats on the 480.

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Old 8th Nov 2010, 22:37   #20
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Seems like a pretty good improvement over the 480 (power/noise/performance combined)

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Old 8th Nov 2010, 22:38   #21
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not bad at all. good effort from nvidia to stay competitive.

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Old 8th Nov 2010, 22:38   #22
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It's a nice enough card but anyone with a GTX 480 upgrading to this is a bit crazy, especially if their 480 clocks well. Though for a refresh only around a 10% performance increase isn't that impressive.

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Seems good, but massively trumped in value by the 6870.

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It's a nice enough card but anyone with a GTX 480 upgrading to this is a bit crazy, especially if their 480 clocks well. Though for a refresh only around a 10% performance increase isn't that impressive.

My line of though exactly after seeing the review...will just hang on to my KFA2 480 Anarchy for a while longer then
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This limitor for voltage is not looking good for overclockers.....
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The 5970 is old now this card will not be up against the 5 series. this card will be up against a much faster single gpu in cayman and a much faster dual card in antilles. This for me is one of the reasons its out now. This will be like all cards before it, good if the price is right compared to its competition. Have to admit i like nvidias prices atm they seem spot on.

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In case it gets taken down:



Seems like around 15-20% improvement over the GTX480, on average (at least at 2560-res where CPU limitation is likely to be minimal). So about what was expected there...

I'm not keen on this "auto down-clocking" when running furmark or OCCT and load goes above 300W though... Also, the 835Mhz max stable overclock is a little disappointing - we will have to see what other cards get, but that isn't much above what the average GTX480 is capable of on stock cooling (both of mine will do 825Mhz for example).



edit - nice to see that the noise level is significantly reduced though.

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This limitor for voltage is not looking good for overclockers.....
Perhaps something to do with the new vapor chamber cooling solution on the card...its maybe only effective within a certain power consumption range?!?!
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Although it is a nice card it really is only a gtx485.

Reasons?

It's pre overclocked by 10% over the gtx480.

In that review the max overclock no matter what volatge was 898Mhz so hardly much better than gtx480's and people with a gtx480 at 850Mhz will have closed the performance difference due to the gtx 580 being overclocked.

Here's a rough exel spreadsheet I knocked up



Since the gtx580 gained 7.4% in performance from a 8% overclock it is no better/worse than a gtx480 with its scaling.

As you can see from the chart, the gtx580 is 15% better on average than a gtx480 however clock for clock it is only 5% faster.

So, it's cooler, quieter and generates less heat and assuming you have a gtx480 which overclocks as well as the gtx580, it is only 5% faster on average and in some games, slower.

And those people thinking that with a water block and extra voltage you might get 900Mhz or even 1000Mhz are going to be disappointed by the max 300W limit which will limit your overclock long before temps are an issue. Unless somebody does a workaround if possible?

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