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Old 4th May 2013, 09:40   #1
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ED induced through use of porn

That's right gents, it's the terror-term; Erectile Dysfunction

A large part of me wonders why the hell i'm writing this post, it could well just result in mockery and mickey-taking. But then on the flip side there's the fact that from a quick Google, it looks like a lot of people have experienced this but due to lack of knowledge on the matter have suffered as a result. As someone who has experienced the horror that this affliction evokes, even if one person who's suffering but hasn't realized the cause is able to resolve the issue as a result of reading this then it's worth the mockery.

So a short back story (to hopefully prove I'm not a weirdo and this, in fact, can happen to anyone), I had been in a relationship since I was 18. Aside from a short 'crisis breakup' we had been together for eight years in total and never had issues 'in the sack' been encountered. For reasons that are too complicated and frankly uninteresting to go into, the relationship ended. As someone who too easily becomes attached to women, but also felt that I needed time to be single, I opted to abstain from one night stands and dating as a whole until I felt ready to commit again. Opting instead for treating social occasions as time to spend with friends and family rather than go on the pull, I felt that I was able to really grow as a person in the past year. Unfortunately as a typical red-blooded male, this also predictably left rather strong urges; urges I felt the need to quell.

This leads us to the crux of the story; I turned to pornography. At this point I feel I must stress I was not into anything weird, this was just bog standard, run of the mill pornography that I bet the vast majority of us here have, are or will access/ed. Whilst I will happily admit my frequency of 'use' increased as time passed, I never became what I would call addicted or viewed it excessively. I even viewed porn when I was in my long term relationship, but this was alongside having sex with my partner.

Skip forward a year, I felt I was ready to be with someone again. Fortunately it didn't take long for me to find someone I really get along with and, after a few dates (as you would expect from a respectable lady ) the relationship took the next step. All was fine, we had a couple of very great nights together and I was happy... or so I thought. After a couple of weeks I started to struggle to get aroused, things I took for granted such as erections when I woke up in the morning (sorry, too much information I'm sure; but you will see why this fact is important later) mysteriously ceased. My sex drive plummeted and as a result, so did intimacy in what should be the most exciting stage of a relationship. I was in trouble. This worried me so much I went to the doctors, something which I try to avoid at all costs being a typical male. The doctor quickly understood my symptoms and even described a few that I was having, but had not associated with my problem. She was able to explain the resolution of the issue and was even able to give a time frame before things returned to normal, so what was it?

That's right, erectile dysfunction caused through use of pornography. I'm not a biologist but from her discussion what I've gleaned is that porn causes our brain to react differently to when experiencing 'natural sex', producing a way higher level of dopamine, effectively causing your sex drive to become addicted and making it harder and harder for you to get hard (pun intended) under normal circumstances.

But I had stopped watching porn as soon as I started seeing this new girl and at first things were fine, this made no sense? Surely I should have become MORE excitable? This brings me to the cure and the horrifying 'come down':

Quit porn, cold turkey. Sounds simple right? It turns out the effects of the come down can be surprising:


First few days - Massive sex drive.

Symptoms - Horny, horny, horny
Generally no problems will present in the first few days, you will however be incredibly horny which seems logical due to removing pornography from your life. Arousal and intercourse aren't an issue.

Second week - Complete shut down

Symptoms - Complete loss of sex drive, depression, anxiety (all three quoted from doctor)
This is the one that shocked me. Many people have the experience of your sex drive completely shutting off; you no longer get aroused physically, despite still very much wanting to have sex. This is the point where I realized there was a problem. Instinctively you feel the need to turn to pornography to regain your sex drive, this is exactly the wrong thing to do as you return to square 1.

Up to 8 weeks - full recovery.
Symptoms - Return of sex drive, much greater ease of arousal than before quitting.
I guess this depends on the level of your porn use and the extent of the duration, but many seem to state that 8 weeks porn free will see you back to having the sex drive of a horny teenager. I'm only two weeks in and have got past the 'complete shut down' and feel my return to form approaching. Apparently once you're back on form,resuming watching porn at a much reduced rate will not cause problems, but returning to high frequency use will see you needing to get your high density dopamine fix in no time.


So why not just continue using porn and resume an active sex life without the fuss? A quick google will show you that hundreds of people who have been viewing porn excessively for an extended period begin to have ED issues whilst continuing use. Eventually it often leads to men needing to 'up the excitement' and view more and more extreme pornography just to get excited, leaving any chance of arousal in normal conditions by the way-side.

A few anecdotes and some helpful advice can be found all over the net, this is one useful example:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marnia..._b_489194.html



If you're that guy, if you take a lady home for the evening and are unable to perform and assume its nerves, if you're unable to become aroused without physical stimulation, have another think about the situation... you could well be addicted to porn.

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Old 4th May 2013, 09:42   #2
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I can't help but feel you have to be going at it pretty excessively with the porn to encounter any such problem.
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I can't help but feel you have to be going at it pretty excessively with the porn to encounter any such problem.

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Old 4th May 2013, 09:48   #4
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I can't help but feel you have to be going at it pretty excessively with the porn to encounter any such problem.
I completely expected this to be one of, if not the first statement to be made in a reply. It's certainly the assumption I would make if I was in your position. I guess it depends on your definition of excess. Five, maybe six times a week would probably be an accurate guess at the average, but I wasn't exactly counting!

Some anecdotes speak of viewing it 3 or 4 times a day, this is clearly excess and as a result its unsurprising that this leads to issues. What I do know though is not having sex for an extended period of time alongside use of pornography seems to compound the effects significantly.

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Old 4th May 2013, 09:53   #5
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At this point I feel I must stress I was not into anything weird
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If you want to know whether you have the beginnings of a problem or not, try to masterbate without pornographic aid.


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You are talking of excessive masturbation rather than simply watching pornography aren't you?
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If you want to know whether you have the beginnings of a problem or not, try to masterbate without pornographic aid.
This is something that I've seen stated several times by other people and is sound advice. A lot of people also say a test can be the complete opposite; see if you can become aroused whilst looking at pornographic material without physical stimulation.

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You are talking of excessive masturbation rather than simply watching pornography aren't you?
Well, the combination of the two yes. I haven't seen any anecdotal evidence of masturbation alone causing these sorts of issues, nor simply watching porn without 'acting upon it'.

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Old 4th May 2013, 10:12   #9
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This is what worries me about people who watch things like Hentai... surely once the main character has sprouted six tentacles and banged a whole bus full of japanese cheerleaders with them, how can 'normal' sex ever match up???

On a serious note tho, congrats for kicking the habit and i'm glad everything has worked out.
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You are talking of excessive masturbation rather than simply watching pornography aren't you?
Everything I've read about it says masturbation itself is fine. The problem starts from your brain becoming accustomed to new, instant hit visual experiences.


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The problem starts from your brain becoming accustomed to new, instant hit visual experiences.
So you mean, even if you just watch porn and don't masturbate whilst doing so, you could still enter into the dangerous realm of ED?

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i had a slight issue like this, ish with my current gf. had been single about a year. no action. there was this weird phase just before we started getting together that i didnt feel really ' connected ' to the old fella. sounds weird. but i knew in instances past he would be up for a fight this time round he wasn't. libido possibly ? any way, skip forward a bit. got with my new gf. nothing happened. rather embarrassing. she was a good sport about it. especially weird as shes super attractive. took about 2 - 3 weeks actually if memory serves. though i actually think it was just nerves more than anything. then you just compound the problem by thinking about it.

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http://yourbrainonporn.com/

This site goes through it in massive detail

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So you mean, even if you just watch porn and don't masturbate whilst doing so, you could still enter into the dangerous realm of ED?
That I have no idea about, it probably needs the chemical release to reinforce it though.
But why would people choose to watch porn and not masturbate?


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSF82AwSDiU

Worth the watch.
TED Talk on the subject.

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Everything I've read about it says masturbation itself is fine. The problem starts from your brain becoming accustomed to new, instant hit visual experiences.
Not really buying it.
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So it's actually a statement of fact to say that you're a massive ******?

Interesting read, not sure my Brazilian fart porn addiction is at its zenith quite yet, but I've got a Silk Road account and a load of Viagra just in case
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http://yourbrainonporn.com/

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this x100

Since I have been attempting NoFap and NoPorn, I have been having more of an intimate relationship with my gf. There's way more productive things to do instead of busting a nut to a girl on screen who if you probably met in person wouldn't give a **** about you.

Just try it for a week or so guys, its all about willpower, self-control and self-discipline.

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So it's actually a statement of fact to say that you're a massive ******?
'fraid so!

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this x100

Since I have been attempting NoFap and NoPorn, I have been having more of an intimate relationship with my gf. There's way more productive things to do instead of busting a nut to a girl on screen who if you probably met in person wouldn't give a **** about you.

Just try it for a week or so guys, its all about willpower, self-control and self-discipline.
Why're you jacking it to porn when you have a gf anyway? Does not compute, dude.
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Why're you jacking it to porn when you have a gf anyway? Does not compute, dude.
Nights apart, or that time of her month?


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Why're you jacking it to porn when you have a gf anyway? Does not compute, dude.
This was prior to having a GF, I had a few short term relationships but still had a bad addiction. When I stopped porn and fapping my relationships lasted a lot more longer and was way more intimate. Since I started doing this I perceive women is very differently compared to how I did in the past. But yes nights apart and other various factors did contribute to me fapping when I couldn't see my GF.

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Nights apart, or that time of her month?
I'm going to stop before I say something somebody finds disgusting.
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some religions ban it
I'm Catholic, and even I don't see an issue with it.

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Seriously?? How...interesting!
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Wow, what an interesting read..

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Nights apart, or that time of her month?
also she may have a headache etc but remember "if the river runs red take the dirt track instead"

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Just watched this. It's utterly fascinating to be honest, if slightly worrying that it isn't more widely educated that pornography is causing these issues. Apparently most doctors don't recognize the symptoms and instead diagnose depression or other psychological issues, I'm glad my doctor was clued up.

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I suffer from this.

When i was a teenager i fapped like any other teenager and my erections and arousal triggers were pretty normal for someone of that age. I lost my virginity at 16 and had one more encounter when i was 19 and then didn't have sex for another 5 years after that as i never had confidence to engage with women and i wanted to wait for the right one(big mistake as i shall explain later!).

Within those five years i discovered the internet and the wealth of porn available and i would watch it on a daily basis, increasing in its weirdness over the years beacuse it started not to do much to me in the way of arousal. It got to the point that by the time i was about 22 my erections were half as hard and much harder to get. It was quite worrying to be honest but it didnt affect me until i met my ex when i was 24.

We got together and when it came to the standing and banging i just couldnt get an erection at all, i even went so far as trying a penis pump and viagra to try and get it to work but it was awful. My ex as i later found out was a complete fruitcake and didn't help matters at all. She would have a go at me because of it and even used to say " my other boyfriends never had this problem when ****ing me".... :/ As you can imagine she just compounded the problem and sex was quite a rare thing. It did improve over time but it was never great.

In the end we broke up as she was quite abusive towards me and i ended up meeting someone else, my current fiancee and within a month or so of being with her, my problem was so much better because she never put me down or made a deal of it. My porn habits are much improved, i'll only watch it once a week or two weeks when shes not here and it's helped a lot. I'm still not anywhere near where i was 10 years ago as my erections aren't super hard and i can't keep going for too long (another symptom watching porn just to get rid of it quick so to speak) but my sex life is much more normal than it was.

I'd advise people not to watch it too much as it really does change your perceptions of sexual normality and arousal but with the sheer amount of porn around it's not easy.

Also make sure you dont get with a fruitcake that degrades you because of it! I dont mind talking about it as it's common and i don't really care who knows if it helps other people!

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