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14th Gen "Raptor Lake Refresh"

Soldato
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Intel has released a statement and it suggests that out of the box pre overclocking for Intel motherboards is over

"Intel has observed that this issue appears to be related to out-of-specification operating conditions.
Analysis of affected processors shows some parts experience shifts in operating voltages outside of Intel specified operating conditions.

  • We are still investigating, but Intel has observed the majority of reports of this issue are from users with unlocked/overclock capable motherboards.
  • Intel has observed 600/700 Series chipset boards often have BIOS defaults set by the motherboard manufacturer to disable thermal and power delivery safeguards designed to limit processor exposure to sustained periods of high voltage and frequency, for example:
    – Disabling Current Excursion Protection (CEP)
    – Enabling the IccMax Unlimited bit
    – Disabling Thermal Velocity Boost (TVB) operating conditions.
    – Additional settings observed which may increase the risk of system instability:
    – Disabling C-states
    – Increasing PL1 and PL2 beyond Intel recommended limits

Intel requests that system and motherboard manufacturers provide end users with a default BIOS profile that matches Intel's recommended settings.

  • Intel strongly recommends customer’s default BIOS settings from the manufacturer should ensure operation within Intel’s specified recommended settings.
  • In addition, Intel strongly recommends motherboard manufacturers to implement warnings for end users alerting them when there is any unlocked or overclocking feature usage.
 
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Intel has released a statement and it suggests that out of the box pre overclocking for Intel motherboards is over

"Intel has observed that this issue appears to be related to out-of-specification operating conditions.
Analysis of affected processors shows some parts experience shifts in operating voltages outside of Intel specified operating conditions.

  • We are still investigating, but Intel has observed the majority of reports of this issue are from users with unlocked/overclock capable motherboards.
  • Intel has observed 600/700 Series chipset boards often have BIOS defaults set by the motherboard manufacturer to disable thermal and power delivery safeguards designed to limit processor exposure to sustained periods of high voltage and frequency, for example:
    – Disabling Current Excursion Protection (CEP)
    – Enabling the IccMax Unlimited bit
    – Disabling Thermal Velocity Boost (TVB) operating conditions.
    – Additional settings observed which may increase the risk of system instability:
    – Disabling C-states
    – Increasing PL1 and PL2 beyond Intel recommended limits

Intel requests that system and motherboard manufacturers provide end users with a default BIOS profile that matches Intel's recommended settings.

  • Intel strongly recommends customer’s default BIOS settings from the manufacturer should ensure operation within Intel’s specified recommended settings.
  • In addition, Intel strongly recommends motherboard manufacturers to implement warnings for end users alerting them when there is any unlocked or overclocking feature usage.
Alright, time to redo launch reviewers at the new settings. :)
 

RSR

RSR

Soldato
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The key word in that is requests and not requires in legal speak.

Enforcing stock PL won’t make much of a difference in games as it doesn’t pull 9000w watts as someone has quoted. I am sure the people requesting re tests have there own benches to test this out on and post the results.
 
Man of Honour
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Alright, time to redo launch reviewers at the new settings. :)

I dunno how Intel stock their settings are but TPU reviewed all the 14th gen with "stock" and "all power limits removed" variations but their "stock" settings might include MCE on as their stock setting is averaging 374 watt vs 450 with no power limits on the 14900KS averages.
 
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