Soldato
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So... There was a bit of interest when I posted this up in the show us your motors thread so I'll make a thread to keep my progress in, in case anyone's interested. It's not going to be everyone's cup of tea, but hopefully it'll be interesting to some.
I've been missing the Rover P6 V8 I sold at the end of last year (because it was a heap) and decided to spend a little more money this time and to get something to keep garaged and just use for shows while keeping on top of maintenance and making some mods/improvements.
Fast forward a bit and on Saturday I picked up this 1964 Hillman Super Minx. It's a 1600 with a 3-speed, column shift automatic gearbox, making a terrific 58bhp (when new). I picked it up from Norfolk near my parents house, and she made it that far with no apparent issues:
So it was onwards (at a cruising speed of 60-65mph according to GPS) back home to Essex, and her temporary home at my sister's house just down the road from my flat.
The car's had filler on all four arches, but to a pretty fair standard. The rear arches want attention at some point, but they're not structural and look good until you get pretty close and start inspecting, so there's no urgency.
It's had inner and outer sills done quite recently, and to a very good standard actually. Underneath she's really very solid.
She hasn't shown any real issues at this point, after a 120 mile journey - mostly the A14 and A12, cruising quite happily and alarmingly overtaking some proper bank holiday weekend plodders. Stayed at a nice temperature, we got caught in some traffic and she didn't creep up even to halfway into the 'normal' temperature area. The exhaust has a nice rattle/knock to it - I need to get her up on stands and see what's up.
So we get to Bank Holiday Monday, my girlfriend's at work and I get bored, so I decide that I'll go to Halfords close to where I live, pick up a jack and axle stands that I'll be needing in the near future, and bring the Super Minx back to hers (we live about 40 miles apart), and then drive it to work Tuesday morning - it did that with no issue as well despite getting stuck in loads of traffic. But at lunch, I ran it round the block to pick up my new wheels and saw a bit of smoke coming from the front end while stopped, which was obviously a bit of a concern. Saw some while driving home as well - but when I pulled over to investigate, nothing... If you leave it with the bonnet up, there's no smoke... just a bit of a waft sometimes when you pull up. Possibly some oil from a leak getting to the exhaust? Possibly a breather dribbling out onto something hot? Not sure at this point, but it's brief and happens just as I pull up, then goes. I'll investigate.
Here's what I was picking up on the lunchtime drive:
13" x 5.5j Rostyles from a mkII Cortina - these should fit the Super Minx nicely. As you can probably see from the picture, they're a little battered. The top one on the pile is by far in the worst shape, the others don't have the corrosion you can see on the mating surface, and are much rounder! I should be able, hopefully, to rub that one down to get a nice seal, and to go at it with a mallet to help the curbing damage. As long as they seem to be true enough (which they do on first inspection), I'll have them chemically stripped and paint them up at home. They were £40 from eBay so worth the risk in my opinion.
I'm not a fan of the current wheels - or hubcaps at least. It has the hubcaps off a later hillman (I forget which) but I'm not fond. I'm going to find some standard dome style hubcaps, and paint up the standard steels in off-white to match the roof, and between those and the Rostyles I should have two nice sets of wheels to use. I do love me a rostyle though so hopefully they're good enough to refurb and use.
The car actually drives lovely. It's really engaging to drive around the lanes, demanding a lot more attention than a modern car due to the nature of it. It's a lot of fun to drive at pretty sedate speeds, and gets loads of attention wherever you go.
Immediate plans:
• Fluid change
• New discs, pads and shoes - she judders a bit under heavy braking, and with brakes like these, all the braking is heavy.
• Fit stereo (the car's already been converted to negative earth, and has had speakers on the parcel shelf at some point - I'll be fitting speakers with minimal molestation to the very tidy and original interior)
• Lowering 2" - I've got lowering blocks for the (leaf spring) rear end on the way, and am arranging to have some 2" lowered springs made by Sheffield Coil Springs for the front.
• Refurbish the Rostyle steels and get some tyres on them
• Wrap the wooden laminate parts of the dash in gloss red to match the exterior... I'm not a huge fan of the wood dash on this, it's not a standout feature for me and the door tops and elsewhere don't feature any wood:
It's also cracked.
• Mooneyes metalflake red 3-spoke steering wheel to replace the damaged original (damaged by previous owners crooklock)
• New carpet set - the current set is very tired and haggard.
• Ditch the AA badge and spotlights - it's already gone!
• De-badge the grille - the grille continues behind the Hillman badge and it looks much cleaner without
• Fit a peep mirror to the driver's side quarter light - the wing mounted mirrors look great in my eyes but they are useless.
• Find out what the smoke's about! It might be pretty much nothing, but I'm looking into it.
• Stop the exhaust rattling - it probably needs a mount replacing somewhere.
• Clean up and underseal the whole underside of the car - it's pretty solid down there, really good actually, but I want to preserve it so I'll be under there with a wire brush and then slapping a load of waxoyl/bilt hamber all over it sometime quite soon.
Long term plans:
• Possibly find a Holbay 1725cc engine to put in. These make over 100bhp and are literally a straight fit with a couple of component changes. 100bhp may not be much, but compared to 58bhp... rocket ship!
• I'm seriously considering having the white roof and visor resprayed in pearl white with a metalflake. This will only happen if I decide to keep the car long term.
• Remove pretty much all the badges - I'll only do this if I keep the car long term as they all leave holes when removed, and there are quite a few of them. If I do this, I'll also remove the wing mirrors and the wing-mounted aerial for a cleaner look. The car will need pretty much a respray if I do this, so honestly it's quite unlikely I'll go ahead with it. I don't mind the badges, or the mirrors or the aerial, but if I could make them disappear.. I would.
• Fit an alternator to replace the dynamo, and possibly electronic ignition. I'm a bit loath to do this at the moment as it starts on the button and is behaving itself. This car isn't going to be a daily driver, I'm only intending to use it for shows, car runs, and sunny day drives, so I'm not sure I'll bother with modernising the electrics while it's behaving itself.
Today I took it back to my sister's house after work and gave it a quick and dirty wash/polish/wax just to get some protection on there. It's come up really nice actually, especially from 10ft away, but I have found some quite bad overspray from previous repairs. A friend of mine is pretty handy with a mop and at some point is going to see if he can get all this off for me.
After polish and wax she's come up pretty well:
I know it's been a bit of a long post, but hopefully it's of some interest to a few of you. I'll update with pics as I go.
I've been missing the Rover P6 V8 I sold at the end of last year (because it was a heap) and decided to spend a little more money this time and to get something to keep garaged and just use for shows while keeping on top of maintenance and making some mods/improvements.
Fast forward a bit and on Saturday I picked up this 1964 Hillman Super Minx. It's a 1600 with a 3-speed, column shift automatic gearbox, making a terrific 58bhp (when new). I picked it up from Norfolk near my parents house, and she made it that far with no apparent issues:
So it was onwards (at a cruising speed of 60-65mph according to GPS) back home to Essex, and her temporary home at my sister's house just down the road from my flat.
The car's had filler on all four arches, but to a pretty fair standard. The rear arches want attention at some point, but they're not structural and look good until you get pretty close and start inspecting, so there's no urgency.
It's had inner and outer sills done quite recently, and to a very good standard actually. Underneath she's really very solid.
She hasn't shown any real issues at this point, after a 120 mile journey - mostly the A14 and A12, cruising quite happily and alarmingly overtaking some proper bank holiday weekend plodders. Stayed at a nice temperature, we got caught in some traffic and she didn't creep up even to halfway into the 'normal' temperature area. The exhaust has a nice rattle/knock to it - I need to get her up on stands and see what's up.
So we get to Bank Holiday Monday, my girlfriend's at work and I get bored, so I decide that I'll go to Halfords close to where I live, pick up a jack and axle stands that I'll be needing in the near future, and bring the Super Minx back to hers (we live about 40 miles apart), and then drive it to work Tuesday morning - it did that with no issue as well despite getting stuck in loads of traffic. But at lunch, I ran it round the block to pick up my new wheels and saw a bit of smoke coming from the front end while stopped, which was obviously a bit of a concern. Saw some while driving home as well - but when I pulled over to investigate, nothing... If you leave it with the bonnet up, there's no smoke... just a bit of a waft sometimes when you pull up. Possibly some oil from a leak getting to the exhaust? Possibly a breather dribbling out onto something hot? Not sure at this point, but it's brief and happens just as I pull up, then goes. I'll investigate.
Here's what I was picking up on the lunchtime drive:
13" x 5.5j Rostyles from a mkII Cortina - these should fit the Super Minx nicely. As you can probably see from the picture, they're a little battered. The top one on the pile is by far in the worst shape, the others don't have the corrosion you can see on the mating surface, and are much rounder! I should be able, hopefully, to rub that one down to get a nice seal, and to go at it with a mallet to help the curbing damage. As long as they seem to be true enough (which they do on first inspection), I'll have them chemically stripped and paint them up at home. They were £40 from eBay so worth the risk in my opinion.
I'm not a fan of the current wheels - or hubcaps at least. It has the hubcaps off a later hillman (I forget which) but I'm not fond. I'm going to find some standard dome style hubcaps, and paint up the standard steels in off-white to match the roof, and between those and the Rostyles I should have two nice sets of wheels to use. I do love me a rostyle though so hopefully they're good enough to refurb and use.
The car actually drives lovely. It's really engaging to drive around the lanes, demanding a lot more attention than a modern car due to the nature of it. It's a lot of fun to drive at pretty sedate speeds, and gets loads of attention wherever you go.
Immediate plans:
• Fluid change
• New discs, pads and shoes - she judders a bit under heavy braking, and with brakes like these, all the braking is heavy.
• Fit stereo (the car's already been converted to negative earth, and has had speakers on the parcel shelf at some point - I'll be fitting speakers with minimal molestation to the very tidy and original interior)
• Lowering 2" - I've got lowering blocks for the (leaf spring) rear end on the way, and am arranging to have some 2" lowered springs made by Sheffield Coil Springs for the front.
• Refurbish the Rostyle steels and get some tyres on them
• Wrap the wooden laminate parts of the dash in gloss red to match the exterior... I'm not a huge fan of the wood dash on this, it's not a standout feature for me and the door tops and elsewhere don't feature any wood:
It's also cracked.
• Mooneyes metalflake red 3-spoke steering wheel to replace the damaged original (damaged by previous owners crooklock)
• New carpet set - the current set is very tired and haggard.
• Ditch the AA badge and spotlights - it's already gone!
• De-badge the grille - the grille continues behind the Hillman badge and it looks much cleaner without
• Fit a peep mirror to the driver's side quarter light - the wing mounted mirrors look great in my eyes but they are useless.
• Find out what the smoke's about! It might be pretty much nothing, but I'm looking into it.
• Stop the exhaust rattling - it probably needs a mount replacing somewhere.
• Clean up and underseal the whole underside of the car - it's pretty solid down there, really good actually, but I want to preserve it so I'll be under there with a wire brush and then slapping a load of waxoyl/bilt hamber all over it sometime quite soon.
Long term plans:
• Possibly find a Holbay 1725cc engine to put in. These make over 100bhp and are literally a straight fit with a couple of component changes. 100bhp may not be much, but compared to 58bhp... rocket ship!
• I'm seriously considering having the white roof and visor resprayed in pearl white with a metalflake. This will only happen if I decide to keep the car long term.
• Remove pretty much all the badges - I'll only do this if I keep the car long term as they all leave holes when removed, and there are quite a few of them. If I do this, I'll also remove the wing mirrors and the wing-mounted aerial for a cleaner look. The car will need pretty much a respray if I do this, so honestly it's quite unlikely I'll go ahead with it. I don't mind the badges, or the mirrors or the aerial, but if I could make them disappear.. I would.
• Fit an alternator to replace the dynamo, and possibly electronic ignition. I'm a bit loath to do this at the moment as it starts on the button and is behaving itself. This car isn't going to be a daily driver, I'm only intending to use it for shows, car runs, and sunny day drives, so I'm not sure I'll bother with modernising the electrics while it's behaving itself.
Today I took it back to my sister's house after work and gave it a quick and dirty wash/polish/wax just to get some protection on there. It's come up really nice actually, especially from 10ft away, but I have found some quite bad overspray from previous repairs. A friend of mine is pretty handy with a mop and at some point is going to see if he can get all this off for me.
After polish and wax she's come up pretty well:
I know it's been a bit of a long post, but hopefully it's of some interest to a few of you. I'll update with pics as I go.
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