Minisforum BD770i/BD790i versus DeskMini X600 / 8700G

[softwaresimian]

I was looking at buying a Deskmini X600 with 8700G. However I've just seen the BD770i from Minisforumn which give a system for a similar price (need case & PSU). Or even a DB790i for a small uplift.

Looking at the few benchmarks I can find, the 7745HX seems to be the faster chip for compute ? I'm not too concerned with graphics as I won't be playing games on this system.

So what are the pro's & con's between these two ?

 

[mickyflinn]

What will you be doing , most demanding task?

Do you need pcie5 m2 slots ?

 

[softwaresimian]

Mainly development work. Basically a mix of dev tooling plus Postgres / MongoDB / Kubernetes / RabbitMQ etc. Running a full up cloud application but locally for test & development

Fast storage for the database would be nice and lots or memory, 64GB+

 

[mickyflinn]

The only minor difference I could see is the x600 supports 96gb of memory whare the b770i supports 64gb.

 

[SuBo]

If graphics dont concern you, why go for the 8700G? Any of the Ryzen AM5 chips have a basic IGP baked in, that will be enough for windows desktopy stuff.

************ lists the Ryzen 9 7900 for around £30 more, but your getting 4c/8t more CPU power, bucketloads more cache, and ECC support (potentially useful for the application/use case you mention).

As the X600 takes 4 sticks of desktop sized ram, that will also save you a chunk of money, over 2 sticks of laptop DDR5.

 

[mickyflinn]

case you mention).

As the X600 takes 4 sticks of desktop sized ram, that will also save you a chunk of money, over 2 sticks of laptop DDR5.

Are you sure ?

From the reviews I looked at the x600 takes so dimm memory not desktop and has 2 slots.

ASRock launches new mini-PCs for AMD's latest Ryzen CPUs — DeskMeet, DeskMini, and Jupiter arrive with X600 chipset and USB4 support

ASRock mini-PCs upgraded to the AM5 socket

www.tomshardware.com

Apologies Just checked Asrock and your correct so confusing .

ASRock DeskMeet X600 Series

Supports AMD Socket AM5 Ryzen™ 8000 and 7000 Series Processors, up to 65W<br />Supports MAX Height ≦ 54mm CPU Cooler<br />Supports 4 x DDR5 DIMMs, up to 7200+ MHz (OC), 256GB<br />1 x PCIe 4.0 x16<br />Graphics Output Options：2 x DisplayPort, HDMI<br />2.5G LAN<br />2 x SATA3<br />1 x Blazing...

www.asrock.com

 

[bimbleuk]

I was looking at buying a Deskmini X600 with 8700G. However I've just seen the BD770i from Minisforumn which give a system for a similar price (need case & PSU). Or even a DB790i for a small uplift.

Looking at the few benchmarks I can find, the 7745HX seems to be the faster chip for compute ? I'm not too concerned with graphics as I won't be playing games on this system.

So what are the pro's & con's between these two ?

Check this but I believe the 8600G has the compute but much cheaper iGPU so maybe that will be an option.

 

[SuBo]

Are you sure ?

From the reviews I looked at the x600 takes so dimm memory not desktop and has 2 slots.

ASRock launches new mini-PCs for AMD's latest Ryzen CPUs — DeskMeet, DeskMini, and Jupiter arrive with X600 chipset and USB4 support

ASRock mini-PCs upgraded to the AM5 socket

www.tomshardware.com

Apologies Just checked Asrock and your correct so confusing .

ASRock DeskMeet X600 Series

Supports AMD Socket AM5 Ryzen™ 8000 and 7000 Series Processors, up to 65W<br />Supports MAX Height ≦ 54mm CPU Cooler<br />Supports 4 x DDR5 DIMMs, up to 7200+ MHz (OC), 256GB<br />1 x PCIe 4.0 x16<br />Graphics Output Options：2 x DisplayPort, HDMI<br />2.5G LAN<br />2 x SATA3<br />1 x Blazing...

www.asrock.com

Nope, your correct. I'm familiar with the Deskmeet, as I've built one for a friend. Didn't realise/see that the forum post said Deskmini. Silly ASRock using very similar names for 2 products.

 

[softwaresimian]

If graphics dont concern you, why go for the 8700G? Any of the Ryzen AM5 chips have a basic IGP baked in, that will be enough for windows desktopy stuff.

Hmmm, good idea. I would need an ITX board with two video outputs though ?

 

[SuBo]

Hmmm, good idea. I would need an ITX board with two video outputs though ?

If the X600 is going to be similar to the existing X300 (Assuming now you *MEAN the Mini X600 NUC style one, and not the Meet X600 Minitower), the X600 would have 1x HDMI, 1x DPort and 1x DSub.

Mind you, I remember waiting around for the original X300, it got paper launched, then released in Asia, never seemed to pop up on the chinese web-stores that the forums would block me from naming, and took about an extra year before it was generally availible in Euro, and by that time AMD had already announced AM5, marking the X300's failure to launch