Pc spec advice high budget

[smogsy]

So a friend wants to build a gaming rig high end no expense spared budget is 30k but mentioned he wants a great sim rig with too

I think his mad, I think <£5000 for a pc should be fine

Looking for thoughts an input on spec

Thinking
12c/16c and/intel (most games will need)
64gb of ram (just because budget allows)
He wants a 4090
Bunch of none ssds
Decent seasonic psu

As he wants low maintenance so thinking large case with slow fans and noctua cooler
Maybe a torrent +dh15

 

[5abr3]

When you say "bunch of none SSD's" is that as well as any NVMe drives? If not, any particular reason not to?

Also a sim rig for which titles?

Easiest route is probably to point him to the high end pc's section of OcUK as at least a spec starter (and just ifnore the qatercooling portion of any spec).

 

[Tetras]

I think his mad, I think <£5000 for a pc should be fine

Yeah, £5000 would do it easily. The only way to spend more is to pick something like threadripper, but there's no point in that just for gaming.

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D Sixteen Core 5.70GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3DR-AM) = £529.99
• 1 x Asus TUF Gaming X670E-Plus (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-6JA-AS) = £250.00
• 1 x Crucial Pro 96GB (2x48GB) DDR5 PC5-44800C46 5600MHz Dual Channel Kit (SKU: MEM-CRU-01084) = £248.99
• 1 x Asus GeForce RTX 4090 TUF OC 24GB GDDR6X PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GX-48B-AS) = £1,729.99
• 1 x Crucial T700 2TB NVMe PCIe Gen5 M.2 Solid State Drive (CT2000T700SSD3) (SKU: HD-07D-CR) = £293.99
• 1 x Crucial T500 2TB NVMe PCIe Gen4 M.2 Solid State Drive (SKU: STO-CRU-01090) = £151.99
  
• 1 x ASUS TUF Gaming GT501 Midi-Tower Case - Black Tempered Glass (SKU: CA-059-AS) = £169.99
• 1 x Seasonic VERTEX PX-1000 ATX3.0 1000W 80 Plus Platinum Modular Power Supply (SKU: CA-08Q-SS) = £229.99
• 1 x EK Water Blocks EK-Nucleus AIO CR360 Dark All In One CPU Water Cooler - 360mm (SKU: HS-016-EK) = £109.99

Total: £3,726.91 (includes delivery: £11.98)​

As he wants low maintenance so thinking large case with slow fans and noctua cooler
Maybe a torrent +dh15

A 14900K would need some temperature & power management to air cool (or even with an AIO, tbh).

 

[Gray2233]

A number of sims absolutely love 3D cache, I'd definitely go with AM5 and either a 7800X3D or 7950X3D.

 

[Quartz]

A 7950 with two 3D caches (i.e. a 7950X3D2) has been spotted.

1 x Crucial Pro 96GB (2x48GB) DDR5 PC5-44800C46 5600MHz Dual Channel Kit (SKU: MEM-CRU-01084) = £248.99

Has anyone done performance testing between this and 64 GB of DDR5-6000C30?

 

[Tetras]

Has anyone done performance testing between this and 64 GB of DDR5-6000C30?

Not that I've seen. TPU had a review of the 24GB modules and they perform worse than the 32GB ones, but 48GB is dual rank so maybe they would be equal.

In terms of latency, I'd expect the 2x48 (96GB) modules to perform worse than the 64GB kit.

 

[Nitefly]

Spend £5k. Ask for £30k.

£25k best mates fee.

 

[ooStevo]

So a friend wants to build a gaming rig high end no expense spared budget is 30k but mentioned he wants a great sim rig with too

I think his mad, I think <£5000 for a pc should be fine

Looking for thoughts an input on spec

Thinking
12c/16c and/intel (most games will need)
64gb of ram (just because budget allows)
He wants a 4090
Bunch of none ssds
Decent seasonic psu

As he wants low maintenance so thinking large case with slow fans and noctua cooler
Maybe a torrent +dh15

30k!? Holy f*ck Knuckles! Let us know how it goes lol! You gonna build a Fu**ing time machine or something?

 

[MartinPrince]

For a purely gaming rig I would go with the 7800X3D over the 7950X3D as it is generally marginally faster in games with less potential issues of the split CCD.

 

[smogsy]

Yeah, £5000 would do it easily. The only way to spend more is to pick something like threadripper, but there's no point in that just for gaming.

My basket at OcUK:

• 1 x AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D Sixteen Core 5.70GHz (Socket AM5) Processor - Retail (SKU: CP-3DR-AM) = £529.99
• 1 x Asus TUF Gaming X670E-Plus (Socket AM5) DDR5 ATX Motherboard (SKU: MB-6JA-AS) = £250.00
• 1 x Crucial Pro 96GB (2x48GB) DDR5 PC5-44800C46 5600MHz Dual Channel Kit (SKU: MEM-CRU-01084) = £248.99
• 1 x Asus GeForce RTX 4090 TUF OC 24GB GDDR6X PCI-Express Graphics Card (SKU: GX-48B-AS) = £1,729.99
• 1 x Crucial T700 2TB NVMe PCIe Gen5 M.2 Solid State Drive (CT2000T700SSD3) (SKU: HD-07D-CR) = £293.99
• 1 x Crucial T500 2TB NVMe PCIe Gen4 M.2 Solid State Drive (SKU: STO-CRU-01090) = £151.99
• 1 x ASUS TUF Gaming GT501 Midi-Tower Case - Black Tempered Glass (SKU: CA-059-AS) = £169.99
• 1 x Seasonic VERTEX PX-1000 ATX3.0 1000W 80 Plus Platinum Modular Power Supply (SKU: CA-08Q-SS) = £229.99
• 1 x EK Water Blocks EK-Nucleus AIO CR360 Dark All In One CPU Water Cooler - 360mm (SKU: HS-016-EK) = £109.99

Total: £3,726.91 (includes delivery: £11.98)​

A 14900K would need some temperature & power management to air cool (or even with an AIO, tbh).

He is pretty much going with this spec besides maybe more storage space and all gen5 spec and slightly more ROG version of ASU’s motherboard

his just finding a case and buy button is happenihg

 

[J.James]

@Tetras I often see people saying 64gb of ram is too much for things like gaming, even recent ones. But would you suggest getting as much memory as possible if I wanted to edit 4k videos which are going to be shot at 60-120fps?
I'm planning to replace my old gaming rig in a few months time. Probably with a budget of under £4000 with no monitor.

 

[Tetras]

@Tetras I often see people saying 64gb of ram is too much for things like gaming, even recent ones. But would you suggest getting as much memory as possible if I wanted to edit 4k videos which are going to be shot at 60-120fps?
I'm planning to replace my old gaming rig in a few months time.

I'm not an expert on video editing, but generally speaking: I'd say it depends on your budget, I mean... if you have a small budget, getting a i3-12100 with 64GB is unlikely to be a good move, but if your budget is large enough to buy everything else you want, then I don't see why not.

Upgrading to 4 sticks is unfortunately not simple with DDR5, so if you have enough money I'd definitely advocate getting more to start with, if you think you'll need it in the future.

If you're doing much video editing already, you can check how much RAM you're using with task manager.

You'd need to check how much your app is using the GPU too, cos GPU usage is only increasing over time. The 3060 12GB has been a popular card for creators for awhile now.

 

[J.James]

@Tetras Thank you. I haven't really done any video editing yet, I just don't want to be starting off on the wrong foot, All the latest action cameras keep pushing higher resolutions and frame rates. I can't wait to mess around with slo motion, maybe splurge on some nice editing software too.

 

[Tetras]

@Tetras Thank you. I haven't really done any video editing yet, I just don't want to be starting off on the wrong foot, All the latest action cameras keep pushing higher resolutions and frame rates. I can't wait to mess around with slo motion, maybe splurge on some nice editing software too.

Ahh, I see. Well, if you don't want to go up to 64GB, another alternative is to get a 48GB kit, though you may need a BIOS update to make that 100% stable if your motherboard is from old stock.

There are quite a few videos on YouTube about video editing, so I'd suggest having a scoot around.

This is a good channel:

https://www.youtube.com/@theTechNotice

and Puget has useful benchmarks too.

Once you know what software you're going to use, you can do more specific research about the hardware to pick.

 

[J.James]

Thanks @Tetras Will check out that channel and do some more research. Did I also mention I can't wait to play Cyberpunk 2077? You guys keep banging on about how gorgeous it looks at night (moving)

 

[doopydug]

Spend £5k. Ask for £30k.

£25k best mates fee.

This for the win ! You deserve it.

Seriously tho - who has 30k to spend on a PC - what does your friend do ?