Sold Car Issues

[Soulja]

Hi guys,

I sold a car on ebay and wrote in the description of the issues I was aware. He then haggled me down and stated he would buy the car as spare or repairs and take it away with a recovery truck due to the issues and have it worked on. He then decided to turn up without the recovery truck and drive it home and then the engine went kaput. The ad didn't state spare or repairs as the car would still start but it was him that text an offer after the agreed deal on ebay saying he wants to pay a bit less and would take it as spare or repairs. He is now saying he's going to take me to court for fraud.... Yet he is the one who didn't stick to his side of the agreement(tow it away) and he was the one who stated he'd take it as spares and repairs. I'm pretty sure I have nothing to worry about but I'm wondering if anybody else has had similar issues with a chancer?

 

[Soulja]

The agreed ebay price was £300 higher than what he actually paid me in the end, so I guess that would be breaking the agreement? He also paid via bank transfer when collecting. I've saved and taken screenshots of the messages where he's stated he'll buy it as spares and repairs.

 

[Soulja]

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Then the message you can't see after is me agreeing to his offer £1150(he made a typo of £1550)

 

[Soulja]

How kaput did the engine go? Are we talking a catastrophic failure?
I'd say the only thing you need to worry about is Ebay and how they will handle it. I'm not sure what their stance is on car classified but for anything else it's quite easy to get Ebay to reverse a transaction as they always side with the buyer.

He stated the bottom end cracked apparently. He's been harassing me none stop and I've now had to block him.

 

[Soulja]

^ yep

Text conversation is fine; it was sold outside of eBay so they won't be interested (assuming you killed/deleted the auction).

I accepted his offer on there of £1400 but then I sent him a video of the issue and that's when he was texting and said he will pay £1150 and buy it as spares and repairs and that he would use a recovery truck to use it.

 

[Soulja]

Being "truly human" though - was the car at risk of grenading? He knows where you live. Was it always a spares and repairs vehicle?

I didn't think so. It had a tapping sound which I informed him of and I had been using it daily. He stated that because of the issue he believes it is, he would take it as spares and repairs and take it away with a recovery truck, as shown in the screenshot above.

 

[Soulja]

If you have it writing that he knew it was knackered. It's all on him. Its only fraud if you hide it or don't tell them.

I had been using the car daily and told him about the tapping sound which was genuinely the only issue I knew about. I sent him a video and he even had a look when he came to collect it. He was even the one who said its in worser condition than what I thought it was and that's why he wanted to buy it as spares and repairs.

 

[Soulja]

sounds like he thinks as you have already given him some off the original agreed price hes trying his luck for more
whos to say it actually broke down on the way home
my guess hes just tyring it on for more
and you also have the messages stating he buying it spares or repairs so hes got nothing to go on only harrasment thats all

block and ignore, if he still tries it on report to police, then message him the crime refrence number that will shut the chancer up!

I was also thinking exactly the same with regards to him just trying his luck. He's blocked and if he tries to make contact again I will definitely be going to the police

 

[Soulja]

I guess it depends on how it was sold. Auction or advert. I've always used an advert. Auction even then they will want the fees and that's all they can do as hopefully it was paid outside of Ebay payment system. Bad feedback is about all that will happen. Even that might be removable

It was a classified advert.

What i find funny is that he was the one who said he'd buy it as spares or repairs and tow it away as he thought something more serious was wrong with the car, and then he drives it away and blames me for it...

 

[Soulja]

Playing devils advocate here, your advert listed the car with faults but *did not* explicitly say that it was specifically being sold as spares/repair. How the buyer decided to pick the car up seems completely irrelevant to me. What were the issues you advised him of?

You may well have agreed a whole lot of things outside of the Ebay ad, but that's what they're going to use as basis for the agreement when he complains. Any outside communication would surely be he said/she said.

How can it be he said/she said if I have messages from him stating he wanted to buy it as spares or repairs and also stated he would collect it with a recovery truck after he looked at the video and thought it wasn't the issue that I thought it was(tensioner pully)? He agreed to a price of £1400 on ebay but then haggled after via message, so surely he has gone against ebays T&C? He was happy to go ahead with with the deal we agreed and under the conditions he stated in his messages.

I'm not asking that in an arsey way BTW. Sorry if it comes across like that

 

[Soulja]

eBay may side with him as the car was officially not sold as "spares or not working". I think he has the eBay 30 day protection on his side unless you specifically stated it was a non runner.

It was running though when he bought it, I had been using it and had also picked my daughter up from school the day before, but the engine has been making a tapping noise for over a week, I told him about this and put the info in the ad about what I thought the issue was. He test drove it and also looked it over and was happy before driving it away.

 

[Soulja]

Since blocking him I haven't heard a peep. No letter and no messages via ebay either.

 

[Soulja]

No poop has been posted either...... Well, not yet anyway!

 

[Soulja]

I don't really want to stand and bang with him as he's not my type to be honest.

 

[Soulja]

Sounds like you ripped him off, he is coming for you the midnight caller

Are you okay?