What now for VMWare? What now for virtualisation?

[Hellsmk2]

Cloud is not viable so hello kvm though business really wants something with paid support

Azure Stack HCI.

It's still hyper-v under the hood and it still sucks to setup, but it's probably the best if the rest in terms of enterprise hypervisors. It's also fairly cheap too -$10 dollars per active core per month (and most vendors have software to restrict cores, which is nice).

It feels like we're pushing turds in comparison to VMware, but it's selling well and does have tighter integration with Azure.

I'd love to push xcp-ng or proxmox, but they're just not enterprise level hypervisors.

 

[LostCorpse]

I'd love to push xcp-ng or proxmox, but they're just not enterprise level hypervisors.

out of interest what do you feel is missing from them?

but it's selling well and does have tighter integration with Azure.

that works if you want to fully integrated in to azure, not everyone does and or can afford to i would think.

 

[Hellsmk2]

out of interest what do you feel is missing from them?


that works if you want to fully integrated in to azure, not everyone does and or can afford to i would think.

Enterprise class support.

I'm working with a client at the moment who uses xcp-ng, and the hardware vendors will categorically not support it to the point they've asked us to step in in the absence of anyone able to support it. Everything is best endeavours, which is not acceptable in the business world as a normal operating model.

 

[Armageus]

Enterprise class support.

I'm working with a client at the moment who uses xcp-ng, and the hardware vendors will categorically not support it to the point they've asked us to step in in the absence of anyone able to support it. Everything is best endeavours, which is not acceptable in the business world as a normal operating model.

Surely if enterprise support is needed then they should be using xenserver rather than xcp-ng?

 

[Hellsmk2]

Surely if enterprise support is needed then they should be using xenserver rather than xcp-ng?

Yup, I completely agree, but I'm not the one who decided to try and save money on the software after spending hundreds and thousands on the hardware.

 

[LostCorpse]

ah thank you, i wasnt expecting the hardware vender to be the issue.
seems a little od considering xen and debian are generally well supported

 

[Nasher]

We have been using hyper-v clustering since about 2012. Which has been mostly fine. Bosses always thought VMware wasn't worth the cost, no chance now.

 

[Trig]

Be interesting to see if MS add more features to Hyper-V to try and fill the gap, or if they're more interested in people going down the Azure route given everyone wants you on a subscription based model these days...

 

[LostCorpse]

willing to bet Azure.
why waste resources on something you dont want to support. they'll do it later (add fetures) if there is a big shift away from azure/subscriptions and back to on prem i suspect. i dont see that soon at the moment.

 

[SupraWez]

Plus with Azure HCI stack you can manage remote private clusters through Azure, a good option if already using Azure.

 

[malachi]

MS put hyper-v on the back burner for years because of Azure.

They rather you create a VM in Azure than on prem.

 

[ChrisD.]

I am not really sure what Broadcom is trying to achieve by discontinuing the perpetual licensing apart from it being a massive cash grab.

I don't mean to be pedantic, but VMware announced that they were discontinuing perpetual licensing long before Broadcom announced the aquisition.

 

[covenantuk]

One upside of the Broadcom acquisition? Smelling blood in the water, their competitors' marketing budgets have gone ballistic. Lots of free lunches etc going now for anyone prepared to look at products for a day.

 

[ChrisD.]

Don't believe the FUD!