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12,719 3D 06 Marks with 8800 GTS 640 MB

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weescott said:
Overclocking to purely boost results is the same as using the performance setting surely?


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Not the same since one sacrifices image quality to get better results whereas the other does not sacrifice any IQ at all but runs the components faster which is the whole point of benchmarking and overclocking. Why do people not understand this ?

Also when People OC they tend to run 3dmark as a test of stability, wtf is the point in doing the above if you're lowering IQ thus minimising any stability issues then when you actually game have HQ IQ settings thus aiding a higher chance of instability since during "testing" IQ was lower ?


Bizarre, and yes I do know what I'm talking about "easyrider" - I just have absolutely no idea why you have started to type like a child in this thread.
 
mrk said:
Also when People OC they tend to run 3dmark as a test of stability, wtf is the point in doing the above if you're lowering IQ thus minimising any stability issues then when you actually game have HQ IQ settings thus aiding a higher chance of instability since during "testing" IQ was lower ?
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I wouldn't say to anyoneone to test stability with 3d mark. I can run my CPU at 3.84Ghz in 01, 3.8 in 03 and 3.78 for 06. No artifacts with max card clock. Prime stable is 3.64. So there is huge difference to be had in Benching speed and subsequent 3d mark scores, much more than just using the performance setting. Plus in real world I will downclock as the only noticable difference in speed for the sake of a few hundred mhz or 30mhz GFX is synthetic.
 
Reality|Bites said:
What I don't like is how all the new younger people who are just getting into computers and Hardware come on forums like these and try to preach to the older veterans who have being doing this for years.

post your first ever 3dmark 2k1 results :)

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=730433
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Aye, Easy might be like that guy that says "Turd Nugget" in the film "Grandma's Boy" but he is right.

These were the ways it was set at and NOTHING has been changed or has anyone said "Right, THIS is the way to benchmark it now????".

You are completely right in saying that the younger folk think they know best and trying their damn hardest to give us a lesson. I'm sure Google will be the teacher on this one as they're not taking no for an answer :p.
 
mwuhahahhahaha I notice 4 people have been suspended in this thread.....
People get to worked about about their um......how big their "equipment" is.

You shouldnt be so hard on yourselves... just accept what the ati and nvidia gods gave you and trust that they know what your doing
 
My opinion on this is that there is a fundamental difference between overclocking and changing the IQ to get a better score. One card overclocked more than another (and assuming the same driver settings) isn't going to look any different, it'll just give more FPS.

In contrast someone who changes the I.Q to get a better score is cheating imo.

I could care less what the official rules are on this (I doubt there are any from Futuremark etc since changing driver settings can't be detected by them) - all I know is that I would run a bench to compare my system against a known correct result (I.Q) that everyone else is aiming for, not something I decided to make up to boost my score.

We might as well just run Quake 2 timedemos to get hundreds of FPS, and alter SuperPI so it runs faster on our hardware if pure numbers matter and "known correct values" are meaningless...
 
Durzel said:
My opinion on this is that there is a fundamental difference between overclocking and changing the IQ to get a better score. One card overclocked more than another (and assuming the same driver settings) isn't going to look any different, it'll just give more FPS.

In contrast someone who changes the I.Q to get a better score is cheating imo.
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not when its inside the rules of the benchmark. how is it cheating if you're allowed to do it?
all I know is that I would run a bench to compare my system against a known correct result (I.Q) that everyone else is aiming for, not something I decided to make up to boost my score.
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everyone else is aiming for higher scores lol

We might as well just run Quake 2 timedemos to get hundreds of FPS, and alter SuperPI so it runs faster on our hardware if pure numbers matter and "known correct values" are meaningless...
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how do you suppose we make superPI run faster?
 
Really don't see what the problem is here.

All of you bench with performance.

Its not cheating its not wrong its the way its always been done.

So get a grip boys, stop whining and bench.

Benching with IQ on and with AA and AF is pointless.

There are to many factors to consider.

Best way is to keep it simple.

Turn off AA AF and put the slider to perfromance.

Its that simple
 
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Seems a completely ligit benchmark to me, obviously isn't directly comparable with scores that have the settings on high, but just because its different i wouldn't class it as cheating. Possibly should have originally stated what settings it was benched at though.
 
DavidB said:
Seems a completely ligit benchmark to me, obviously isn't directly comparable with scores that have the settings on high, but just because its different i wouldn't class it as cheating. Possibly should have originally stated what settings it was benched at though.
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Of course its a legit benchmark.

And I certainly don't have to explain that I used perfromance as thats the correct way to run 3D mark.

Anyone who doesn't know this doesn't have a clue what they are talking about I'm afraid.:mad:
 
Do the unregistered versions of 3DMark test at performance settings? Surely those are the settings the majority of people use.

Yes I'm a newbie at benching and I intend to remain that way tbh ;)
 
The performance setting is there for all to change in the drivers. So it can't be cheating. All the top benchmarking teams do it and more. Where is the problem?

I am surprised its been brought up as a topic for debate, let alone such a long debate.
 
weescott said:
The performance setting is there for all to change in the drivers. So it can't be cheating. All the top benchmarking teams do it and more. Where is the problem?

I am surprised its been brought up as a topic for debate, let alone such a long debate.
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Me too.

I think because its such a nice score people have started questioning their own hardware.:p
 
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