Morrisons FTL

platypus said:
Had to laugh at this. I have only ever been ID'd once, and that was when I didn't have a beard ;)
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Same, I was trying to buy a knife as I had just moved into uni, since I grew a beard I have not been id'd again! Its also the topic of much conversation, mainly involving jesus, long live beards!

Heck, in my morrisons, my friend was who is 20 was trying to buy alchol, but she had left her id at home, so I said to the checkout guy, can I buy it for them? He said sure, and just let me buy it!
 
el_dazza said:
Sorry, but it's ridiculous, however you look at it. Tesco's enforce a policy that if you look under 25, you will be ID'd, othersw it's 21. There has to be a line, and this is stepping way over it. Have they not heard of a thing called "common sense", or are they relying on their manager's word to allow them to use that too? :rolleyes:

That rolleyes wasn't aimed at you, before you get grumpy.. i know some people do ;)
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I'm always grumpy :p

But anyway, the store decides where to draw the line - I think in the specific case of this store, it's in such a problem area that they take the blanket decision to ID, because so many under age drinkers obviously get away with buying alcohol.

I agree that it's ridiculous, but the policy is set, and the shopper would be well aware of it.
 
If only we can stop those ethnic minority corner shops selling booze to kids on council estates - that would cut down half the UK's problems at night.
 
On one level it sounds stupid to refuse someone who is clearly over the legal age but if everyone is to be ID'd then since he can't or won't prove his age he shouldn't get served. A retailer has the right to refuse to serve all or part of someones order for any reason they choose including "I don't like your tie" (as an example) so why should this be any different?
 
basmic said:
If only we can stop those ethnic minority corner shops selling booze to kids on council estates - that would cut down half the UK's problems at night.
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A better introduction to alcohol at a young age and being allowed to socialise in pubs at a younger age would greatly reduce alcohol fueled problems. But I agree the problem of underage selling lies more in corner shop then big retail chains.
 
I've always thought Morrisons was a ***** dump and this has done nothing to change my opinion, if the company are incapable of employing till staff who they trust to make a sensible decision what does that say about the rest of the organisation? I agree with the id anyone who looks under 21 policy but id for white haired grandparents is just silly. I for one will not be carrying ID and if any company are not willing to acept my word and the evidence of there own eyes then they will loose my business.

Next they'll be getting everyone to prove they are over 16 to buy petrol because you never can tell the old geezer who just drove in in the shiny new honda may just be a teenage tearaway seeking to make petrol bombs.

Bloomin ridiculous!
 
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I'm sorry but isn't this lacking common sense? Laws in this country are turning black & white without no thinking, common sense or discretion involved. It's actually ridiculous. I'm sure the people who live their lives to the law don't don't do it with the Bible or whatever religion they follow.

It's understandable that Morrisons have been caught before or whatever, but seriously it's up to the cashier's discretion and common sense - it's a situation that escalated unnecessarily, and the way the management handled it is completely stupid. Asking for ID in this case would only seem valid if they guy was drunk already, in which case they should've refused to serve him completely without even asking for ID.

And that guy looks pretty good for his age. No homo.
 
It's a lot easier for checkout staff if they ID everyone. I'd prefer our store had been like that but it was left to our judement on a 21 policy.

Left now but before I had left I had ID'd plenty of people about 28 etc.. and someone who was 30 but seriously looked about 17 and I got abuse for it.

At the same time someone who looked about 21 to me I didn't ID as they looked old enough for me and they were only 20. A company worker sent in to test us and I got a formal warning :(

I don't see the problem with asking everyone for ID. It's not a huge deal. Theres also the mothers that come in with their teenage daughters stand at the til and and there daughters say mum get me a bottle of mad dog, some mad frog and a WKD blue.

From the sounds of it he didn;t even have to show ID. All he had to say was yes but he made a big fuss. His fault....
 
platypus said:
If its store policy to ID anyone buying alcohol, I don't really see the problem to be honest. Unless he's never shopped there before, he should know better.
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The store is local to me and I've bought alcohol there a few times and only been asked for ID once and I'm 20 so I don't think it's store policy :confused: Unless it's a recent introduction.
 
Jotun said:
The store is local to me and I've bought alcohol there a few times and only been asked for ID once and I'm 20 so I don't think it's store policy :confused: Unless it's a recent introduction.
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It's in the BBC article.

A Morrisons spokesman said: "We take our responsibility with regard to selling alcohol very seriously and all our stores operate the Task 21 scheme, which addresses the difficulties our staff face in being able to determine if a customer is legally old enough to buy alcohol.

"To further limit any element of doubt staff at the West Kirby store are required to ask anyone buying alcohol to confirm that they are over 21."
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I love how they're using the Task 21 scheme to prove if some people are over 21 rather than their own brains.

No-one has yet been able to come up with a sensible argument to convince me why this is not a load of nonsense. It's sad and slightly scary what's happening to this country.
 
Lysander said:
No-one has yet been able to come up with a sensible argument to convince me why this is not a load of nonsense. It's sad and slightly scary what's happening to this country.
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No one needs convince you either way.

The fact is it is store policy for them to ID anyone buying alcohol, and this tool could not follow that simple policy.
 
and the way the management handled it is completely stupid
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The management are told to support the till worker 100%. This means that til staff can feel safer knocking back younger people to as they know they will always have the support they need.
 
platypus said:
No one needs convince you either way.

The fact is it is store policy for them to ID anyone buying alcohol, and this tool could not follow that simple policy.
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I knew you'd say that :p

It's a bloody stupid store policy though. I don't carry any form of ID, never have. I'd just go somewhere that would sell the stuff to me without asking if I'm trying to pull a fast one.
 
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