Been told my current Hifi is crap, need advice

james.miller said:
I'd agree with that, there isnt much that lends itself to a multi channel conversion, save DSOTM and tubular bells lol. brothers in arms is pretty sutble with the surround steering and it works well. But i was actually refering to the 2 channel SACD layer - its very crisp and clean and a good improvement over the cd version. i dont suppose even playing the SACD layer that it sounds anywhere near as good as the cd would on your system though lol :o
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Have DSOTM on vinyl, sorry, "classic" album, but a total bore !!!...
Yeah, you need a dam good SACD player to get near my CD performance, the Pioneer 575 I had for a while on SACD couldn't even beat my 14 year old Karik player..... So my current player :eek:
There is no clear winner for me, too much is down to the recording. Good and bad on both.

Hmmm Power

6 x 125w Active
2 x 125w Passive
1 x 200w Sub (2x12" Isobarik drivers, 15-100Hz +/- 3db)
 
I haven't trawlled the whole of this thread but somthing hits me about your first post.

You seem to be interested in changing your hifi because your mates say its rubbish, but what do you think about it, have you felt the need to change it before you were told it was rubbish or were you happy with it. There is no doubt that you could get something with better fidelity but why change if you are happy?

If this has already been answered please just ingore this post

MB
 
badbob said:
700W subwoofer panel
4x 2 channel poweramps (75W per channel)
4x 2 channel poweramps (125W per channel)

True ratings, not 75W, 10% THD, into 6 OHM DIN, single channel only.
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Pah, another power junkie. Try buying a pair of efficient speakers and you wouldn't need West Drayton to power your system.
 
I think you all scared him off ;)

Quite right though

That Plastic fantastic Argos special is designed to play party/background music, and not to exhibit any kind of quality. Just pick up the speakers and they'll weigh bugger all. Knock on the cabinets and they won't feel solid at all.

You don't need to spend any more than about £2-300 on budget seperates from Richersounds or superfi to completely wee all over that Sharp.

Hell even a better pair of speakers hooked up to it will improve things slightly!


I have a NAD C352 amp (think it's 80WPC, can't remember, I remember it having more power over the C320 or 325 that I was also looking at but that wasn't why I chose it) and some Monitor Audio Bronze B2 speakers, a pretty "budget" system but it sounds fantastic and has plenty of grunt that belies the size of the speakers.

I also have a BK Monolith subwoofer (among my other home cinema equipment), 300watts (not a tremendous amount in terms of huge subwoofers either) and it scares me. Brutal is the only way I can describe how well it handles movies, it's fantastic :D

Quality > Quantity :D
 
Mr_Sukebe said:
Pah, another power junkie. Try buying a pair of efficient speakers and you wouldn't need West Drayton to power your system.
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Who says I don't have quality? Lots of power certainly isn't doing any harm. I do need fair bit of power with the sides though (86dB @1W) The rest are ok though at 90/91dB @ 1W
 
Well to continue the thread hi-jacking and distraction ..LOL... Well going to blame adfinni and James for this....... but I just listened to Brothers in Arms !!! ........all of it.... :eek: Remastered Super Bit Mapped edition. Naa it's nothing special, bit tame, laid back, and over processed and polished. Top end a bit rolled off. Well it was early digital, they had to !!! LOL..
Not much timing going on.........

Now Love over Gold album, is much better... Bigger fatter sound, loads more rhythm and timing, more 3 dimensional sound. The detail and texture in Private Investigations, followed by the dynamics are just excellent. It's a good few years since I listen to it, and not with my current set-up. There was nuances and subtleties and note detail I had not heard before, as well as being as tight as a nun's ***** :D
 
Just had a look at the service manual, this is what it says:

Amplifier:

Output power:

RMS TOTAL: 184 W (92 W + 92 W) (0.3% T.H.D)

MAIN SPEAKER (woofer, tweeter and super tweeters): 74 W (37 W + 37 W)

SUBWOOFER: 110 W (55 W + 55 W)

so those who said it's actually 10 W RMS can go to hell
 
Ive got a pair of EV speakers rated at 150W RMS @ 4ohm and a nice crown amp that weighs in at a casual 25kg's I use for the occassional garden party but after seeing the specs of your Sharp Im willing to swap you. Deal?
 
I've got a pair of Chord stereo poweramps, Chord transport, DAC and analogue stereo pre-amp and B&W Nautilus speakers. Care to swap?
 
I must admit I laughed when I saw the picture of the speakers. I think the gold-plated binding posts must have fallen off these high-quality units, as I was unable to see them.
 
asim18 said:
Just had a look at the service manual, this is what it says:

RMS TOTAL: 184 W (92 W + 92 W) (0.3% T.H.D)

so those who said it's actually 10 W RMS can go to hell
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92W into what though? If it's 4 Ohms and the speakers are actually 8 Ohm, it's probably nearer 40W.

And the THD isn't that decent - even my amp (which isn't special - Cambridge Audio is fairly entry level) has an extra '0' after the decimal point.
 
asim18 said:
Just had a look at the service manual, this is what it says:

Amplifier:

Output power:

RMS TOTAL: 184 W (92 W + 92 W) (0.3% T.H.D)

MAIN SPEAKER (woofer, tweeter and super tweeters): 74 W (37 W + 37 W)

SUBWOOFER: 110 W (55 W + 55 W)

so those who said it's actually 10 W RMS can go to hell
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37w rms a side isnt actually that far off when you consider that rating is at 0.3% distortion. (im not counting the subwoofer outputs) :)


its not fair if i counted the subwoofer outouts. besides its just a numbers game, if you did that, i could say my bi-amped tx-sr805 has 260w rms @ 8ohm, 0.05% distortion available for the fronts.well, actually, as tested:

Next we confirmed Onkyo's published spec of 130W per channel, two channels driven. We loaded two channels with 8 ohms (with the hardware set to the default >6ohm) and brought two channels up to 130W output where we measured THD+N at only 0.0348%. Again, excellent.

Next we moved on to the "cooking" tests. All tests were conducted "two channels driven" with the same 2.0V RMS input.

First we left the 805 in its 6 ohm setting, brought the output up to 1% THD (popularly accepted as the point of clipping), and measured the output. We then loaded it with 4 ohms on each channel and measured. Switching the 805 to its 4 ohm setting we again measured with 8 and 4 ohm loads. The results are tabulated as follows.


>6 ohm setting (default) >4 ohm setting

8 ohm load, 173 Watts, 87 Watts

4 ohm load, 270 Watts*, 151 Watts

* Time limited test under controlled laboratory conditions.

One can see at a glance the performance of the amplifiers in their default setting is remarkably good for a $1,099 comprehensively featured receiver. The behavior is commensurate with good amplifier design in that, transiently at least, it will dump a lot of current as evidenced by the 270W into 4 ohms. Not quite "doubling down" as the saying goes, but none actually do so (cleaver spec'ing just makes it seem like some can).
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http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_14_3/onkyo-tx-sr805-receiver-9-2006-part-5.html

i dunno, should i count my subwoofer as well? numbers games are stupid lol
 
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csmager said:
92W into what though? If it's 4 Ohms and the speakers are actually 8 Ohm, it's probably nearer 40W.

And the THD isn't that decent - even my amp (which isn't special - Cambridge Audio is fairly entry level) has an extra '0' after the decimal point.
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is 6 ohms into 6 ohm speakers
 
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