School shooting in Finland and YouTube

Tru · 7 Nov 2007 at 13:12

That press pack he released was very comprehensive. I am pleased that the modern nutbar is so media-friendly.

divine` · 7 Nov 2007 at 13:15

scorza said:
Massive for that! Atheism is the belief that God does not exist.

Well whatever, I couldn't give two ****s about religion in any of it's forms really.

Majago · 7 Nov 2007 at 13:18

Acid, thanks for posting the you-tube profile, it's blocked here at work and I was interested to read it.

edit: link now removed

Tru · 7 Nov 2007 at 13:18

divine` said:
Well whatever, I couldn't give two ****s about religion in any of it's forms really.

In that case you had better brush up on your atheism

Berserker · 7 Nov 2007 at 13:21

I haven't looked at any of the links and I don't want to. Shocking.

KNiVES · 7 Nov 2007 at 13:25

Here we go with the 'oh look it's a loner' again. People like Kimver Geel and Cho had social problems because others shunned and bullied them. This guy, from what I can read, is no different. It's terrible to get a gun and start killing, but don't go thinking it's all entirely on them. Try to look at it from another perspective.

Vonhelmet · 7 Nov 2007 at 14:33

Sad to hear about this. Their first school shooting apparently... Hopefully any repeated incidents will be few and far between.

Glaucus · 7 Nov 2007 at 14:44

What I don't get is, when it happens in America,. BBC has nuermouse live broadcasts. 20 web pages. And there interviewing anyone and everyone and playing it in a loop.
Happens in Finland and we get half a page, with next to no information.

Vonhelmet · 7 Nov 2007 at 14:54

AcidHell2 said:
What I don't get is, when it happens in America,. BBC has nuermouse live broadcasts. 20 web pages. And there interviewing anyone and everyone and playing it in a loop.
Happens in Finland and we get half a page, with next to no information.

1) Only one person has died, from what I've gathered.
2) No one cares about Finland.

Basically.

Glaucus · 7 Nov 2007 at 14:59

vonhelmet said:
1) Only one person has died, from what I've gathered.

But there might still be hostages

vonhelmet said:
2) No one cares about Finland.

Basically.

True

RuMp3l4$k1n · 7 Nov 2007 at 15:00

BBC story is updated now with at least 3 dead and others injured.

*edit* and now 7.

scorza · 7 Nov 2007 at 15:01

vonhelmet said:
1) Only one person has died, from what I've gathered.

According to Sky, it's now "at least seven"

vonhelmet said:
2) Finland doesn't have the kind of saturation news coverage that they do in America.

Fixed.

Ol!ver · 7 Nov 2007 at 15:02

KNiVES said:
Here we go with the 'oh look it's a loner' again. People like Kimver Geel and Cho had social problems because others shunned and bullied them. This guy, from what I can read, is no different. It's terrible to get a gun and start killing, but don't go thinking it's all entirely on them. Try to look at it from another perspective.

Hmmmm. So it's not his fault then? Should we feel sorry for him being 'forced' into that position?

Vonhelmet · 7 Nov 2007 at 15:05

AcidHell2 said:
True

Poor Finland.

I like Finland...

Mephisto · 7 Nov 2007 at 15:08

Where's the Youtube link?

All this stuff he has said about natural selection sounds very similar to what Eric Harris wrote in his journals.

KNiVES · 7 Nov 2007 at 15:12

Ol!ver said:
Hmmmm. So it's not his fault then? Should we feel sorry for him being 'forced' into that position?

No, we shouldn't feel sorry for him, and yes it is his fault. Stop trying to twist my words, I was saying that a lot of these problems come about from problems that such shooters face with regards to social aspects. The conscious decision to go on a rampage doesn't just go 'ping!' in a person's mind. What I am trying to say is that people do not try to look at why these people make that decision. There's been absolutely no real in-depth look into the background behind Geel or Cho's decision and their problems. It's a big oversight in my opinion.

In layman's terms - you bully me, I shoot you.

_PD_ · 7 Nov 2007 at 15:17

What was his name on youtube?

KNiVES · 7 Nov 2007 at 15:19

Seppo Lehto is his real name I think. I am not sure of the youtube one.

Mephisto · 7 Nov 2007 at 15:31

His Youtube name was Sturmgeist89, but the videos have been taken down by the looks of it. You can still view the video names/descriptions if you do a search for his username.

He also posted a few tributes to the Columbine shooters that he made.

Wicksta · 7 Nov 2007 at 15:32

Don't post the youtube link, it was removed from my original post so the mods don't want it here obviously.