Murder a man and get 3 years in prison

Van Hellseek · 9 Nov 2007 at 03:09

Tefal said:
That to me is worth 3 years alone.

I'd say even more than that. Imagine living in a flat knowing that at any moment people were going to break in and torment/beat you.

I have to admit, I believe that in this country people are usually far to eager to jump on the "lock them up and throw away the key" bandwagon, without considering what that actually means from society's point of view, or just how damaging prison is to individuals.

However in cases like this it's the other extreme. Those two chav pieces of **** deserve nothing short of the chair.

Tefal · 9 Nov 2007 at 03:11

Chris Beard said:
I think it's important to note they haven't got 3 years. They have 3 and 3.5 before they can apply for perole. The artical doesn't mention how long they may serve. I doubt they'll get perole.

Willing to put money on the fact they will be out in 5 years tops?

Zip · 9 Nov 2007 at 03:11

weescott said:
"This Country" is not "England" to me. We are all part of the United Kingdom. So when a UK web site has a thread that says "this country", I take offence! If the start of this thread said "What the hell is wrong with Englands legal system" then I would not have a problem! Dont think English law means UK law by defacto!

A mean has been bruitily beaten to death and the ******* ***** that did it are only getting 3 years and you are more worryed and offended because someone said "This Country"

My god :rolleyes:

Tefal · 9 Nov 2007 at 03:16

weescott said:
"This Country" is not "England" to me. We are all part of the United Kingdom. So when a UK web site has a thread that says "this country", I take offence! If the start of this thread said "What the hell is wrong with Englands legal system" then I would not have a problem! Dont think English law means UK law by defacto!

I believe the murder laws are the same in all 3 places. and any way to the op it is "this country" so he is correct. If an an American says in this country, while standing in America i do not believe him to be talking about here. And ocuk is based in England so to the site it is an english site so is this country

If you are incapable of looking to see where the op lives/where the case is based then you may have a point, and if that incapableness is caused by learning difficulties or disability your chavs will be round to beat you shortly. have fun

weescott · 9 Nov 2007 at 03:16

Did I say that I was more worried about "This country"? No! So don't put words into my mouth or give me the rolleyes! The crime was hideous wherever it was commited. Just get the facts right about COMPLETLY DIFFERENT LEGAL SYSTEMS, before one makes a comment about "this countries legal system"!

Tefal · 9 Nov 2007 at 03:20

weescott said:
Did I say that I was more worried about "This country"? No! So don't put words into my mouth or give me the rolleyes! The crime was hideous wherever it was commited. Just get the facts right about COMPLETLY DIFFERENT LEGAL SYSTEMS, before one makes a comment about "this countries legal system"!

So a person is not allowed to call their country "this country" because someone in another might not be able to comprehend what they mean?

Also the UK is not a country, England Wales and Scotland are, god knows what the uk is a kingdom so if he'd said kingdom you'd have a point.

And as he then states it occurred in England, its the same as saying "shooting in America" what the hell is wrong with this countries people while pointing to the American artical.

AdladUK · 9 Nov 2007 at 03:20

weescott said:
Did I say that I was more worried about "This country"? No! So don't put words into my mouth or give me the rolleyes! The crime was hideous wherever it was commited. Just get the facts right about COMPLETLY DIFFERENT LEGAL SYSTEMS, before one makes a comment about "this countries legal system"!

Sure thing Mr. Sensitive

Would you mind explaining to me what makes Irish, Scotish, Welsh, or wher ever "your country" is located, so much better than English law?

And no, the United Kingdom is comprised of 4 countries. So me saying "this country" when the crime was committed in England, and the sentance was served in England, is perfectly within order.

Grow up would you

Tefal · 9 Nov 2007 at 03:22

Don't you love it when pc/grammar Nazi's **** up?

AdladUK · 9 Nov 2007 at 03:23

Tefal said:
Don't you love it when pc/grammar Nazi's **** up?

They're all over the place.

Another reason why "this country" is going down the *******

Surfer · 9 Nov 2007 at 03:26

despicable... what reason did the appeal judge give for reducing the sentences??

reminds me of the film Outlaw with Sean Bean....

weescott · 9 Nov 2007 at 03:27

Did I say any part of the UK was better than the rest of th UK? NO!!!! So, don't put words in my mouth!

I will repeat: We have different legal systems. At first glance your post could read "what is wrong with the Welsh Legal System", so be specific to your meaning!

Tefal · 9 Nov 2007 at 03:30

weescott said:
Did I say any part of the UK was better than the rest of th UK? NO!!!! So, don't put words in my mouth!

I will repeat: We have different legal systems. At first glance your post could read "what is wrong with the Welsh Legal System", so be specific to your meaning!

You said you where offended by him calling it this country, so you clearly think there is something bad about it.

Nones putting words in your mouth, they just wonder wth your complaining about. If your incapable of putting 2 and 2 together to work out the English op means England on an English web site by saying "this country", then you probably have bigger problems to worry about than the ops wording.

At first glance your post could read "what is wrong with the Welsh Legal System"

Your right if it didn't have that big underlined word england in it.

AdladUK · 9 Nov 2007 at 03:31

weescott said:
Did I say any part of the UK was better than the rest of th UK? NO!!!! So, don't put words in my mouth!

I will repeat: We have different legal systems. At first glance your post could read "what is wrong with the Welsh Legal System", so be specific to your meaning!

Now don't be silly

No one really considers Wales as an independant country with its own legal system

Tefal · 9 Nov 2007 at 03:32

AdladUK said:
Now don't be silly

No one really considers Wales as an independant country with its own legal system

Except our politicians, the assembly is a shambles i would love to go back to how it used to be.

Andy100 · 9 Nov 2007 at 03:35

Headline:

Man Brutally Murdered, Attackers Get 3 Years.

In other news Weescott declares war on UK

j/k

weescott · 9 Nov 2007 at 03:36

Not at all. I neglect that I have to accept the start of " this country" means England by defacto. If the UK shares the same law between all countries then fine! But I will not be drawn into an acceptance that UK means England. And no, is this OCENG? NO! It is OCUK. It is NOT an English web site it is a UK web site, as defined by .co.uk. If it ended in .co.eng then fine. This is the UK not England and some surrounding nations!

weescott · 9 Nov 2007 at 03:38

Andy100 said:
Headline:

Man Brutally Murdered, Attackers Get 3 Years.

In other news Weescott declares war on UK

j/k

grrrr

feeeeeeeeeeeeeedom...n stuff...

Andy100 · 9 Nov 2007 at 03:39

Chiilll Winston...

no one should be that angry at 3:30 in the morning.

Mephisto · 9 Nov 2007 at 03:41

Jesus christ, quit your petty whinging before this thread completely derails.

Tefal · 9 Nov 2007 at 03:41

weescott said:
Not at all. I neglect that I have to accept the start of " this country" means England by defacto. If the UK shares the same law between all countries then fine! But I will not be drawn into an acceptance that UK means England. And no, is this OCENG? NO! It is OCUK. It is NOT an English web site it is a UK web site, as defined by .co.uk. If it ended in .co.eng then fine. This is the UK not England and some surrounding nations!

IT's based in England and presumably regesterd in england.

Also it says England in the op so its pretty clear.