someone pulled out in front of me, wrote off my car

the bmw was not moving, he was stopped waiting to turn right, went for it then saw me coming and panicked and slammed on his brakes.
so how come you hit his front offside and not his front nearside? And why don't you post the other photo - the fuzzy one showing the offside damage to the bmw?
 
Maybe I wasn't clear, clutch in change to neutral, didn't mean keeping it in lol.
Why are you laughing? Putting it in neutral is no different to riding the clutch in terms of control.

And right foot ready on brake for the junction.
Do you slow down every time there is a turn off the main road you're driving down? I highly doubt it.

I know that isn't normal driving, but I'm a tight arse on fuel sometimes. For example in 30 zones, I just stick it in 5th and no throttle is required - almost like cruise control :p

I'm pretty sure you don't save fuel in modern cars by riding the clutch or freewheeling.
 
Ahh right, yeah that will make ALL the difference! :p

Yes I know, lose engine braking. Just wanted to clear up about keeping it in - clutch wear etc...

Luckily I've always anticipated or slowed quickly enough beforehand.

How much difference does it make exactly anyway, because after you apply the brakes you're meant to clutch down anyway.
 
Why are you laughing? Putting it in neutral is no different to riding the clutch in terms of control.

Do you slow down every time there is a turn off the main road you're driving down? I highly doubt it.



I'm pretty sure you don't save fuel in modern cars by riding the clutch or freewheeling.

Nope, I said keep foot above brake when approaching junctions (when cars are there obv), you don't?

Trip computer seems to say so, although I know they are innaccurate.

EDIT: I'm off out now, I'll come back with my flame suit on :p
 
Nope, I said keep foot above brake when approaching junctions (when cars are there obv), you don't?

Trip computer seems to say so, although I know they are innaccurate.

EDIT: I'm off out now, I'll come back with my flame suit on :p

Hmm approaching any junction should mean you'll be braking...

Coasting along with no drive to the wheels is just silly and really you shouldn't be on the roads if that's how you drive.

Oh and coasting doesn't save fuel - it burns it. Engine braking down to a junction costs zero fuel whereas coasting to a junction letting the engine idle with no drive to the wheels costs the same as what it does to idle at traffic lights...
 
Why are you laughing? Putting it in neutral is no different to riding the clutch in terms of control.

Do you slow down every time there is a turn off the main road you're driving down? I highly doubt it.



I'm pretty sure you don't save fuel in modern cars by riding the clutch or freewheeling.
Not to mention that it's actually a myth that cars use less fuel when coasting, in reality they use more. You're better off leaving it in gear - engines don't use any fuel when the drivetrain is spinning it faster than idle speed (assuming a fuel-injected or diesel engine).

EDIT: Beaten :(
 
there was barley a second from me braking to hitting him.

barely a second to hitting him...
30mph = 13 metres per second?
you were apparently skidding out of control remember, hardly out of control for 1 second... BANG.
 
barely a second to hitting him...
30mph = 13 metres per second?
you were apparently skidding out of control remember, hardly out of control for 1 second... BANG.

well then i was obiously wrong about the time. the other facts remain the same.
 
Nope, I said keep foot above brake when approaching junctions (when cars are there obv), you don't?

I slow to an appropriate speed when anticipating possible hazards as any road user should do.

What I don't do is coast or freewheel (moving forwards in neutral) as to do so would leave me in less control of the vehicle. It shouldn't be done. I agree with NathanE, if you drive like that you shouldn't be on the road.
 
well, 2 seconds would be 26 metres, 3 secs 39m, thats a long distance out of control... you sure you were going 30mph?

100% sure mate, i'd just put the car in 4th gear and i remember checking.

it was wet and slippy with people around, you'd have to be mad to be speeding near there.
 
I was referring to the "I wasn't speeding" "I was being a good boy" "It was the nutter's fault" scenario that always pops up in the "I've had an accident" threads, and is always argued down by everyone else. Including, in this case, me.

You won't win. Sorry.
 
I was referring to the "I wasn't speeding" "I was being a good boy" "It was the nutter's fault" scenario that always pops up in the "I've had an accident" threads, and is always argued down by everyone else. Including, in this case, me.

You won't win. Sorry.

right. so because someone has an accident that means there automatically speeding, nice.

even if i was doing double the speed limit, it would still be the bmw guys fault, he cut in front of my path causing the accident. 2 cars both driving strait along dont just magically crash unless 1 does something wrong, which clearly wasn't me.
 
the map of the road is great, poses more questions than it answers though...

1. the road curves to the left, so i reckon due to the damage to both cars, that you were on his side of the road when you hit him, i reckon you hit the breaks and kept going straight, crossing the centre line on the road and hit his left hand side with your right hand side?

2. the visibility is pretty good and you must need glasses not to have seen him sitting there and should really have noticed him starting to turn?

3. at 30mph the breaking distance is around 20mph, but by the looks of things you could have avoided the accident by turning left, and you said he was stationary on your lane, but i dont think he was, was he?

4. you clearly are having far too many accidents and need to improve your hazard perception and driving style, you really should have slowed down and dropped to third at that junction or have been prepared to break in case he pulled out. one of the things they teach you when driving nowadays is not how to physically drive but how to be aware of other road users and to always be prepared to safely compensate for their errors.

5. buy a smaller engine car with abs and every winter get the car checked over, paying special attention to breaks, tyres, tyre pressures, windscreen wipers, engine fluids such as break, oil etc.

6. no excuse for having a 3 grand car and crappy remoulds with no tread leftover, you would be better with a less fancy car serviced and maintained properly.
 
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