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I've never used EMG's before or even active pickups, how do the tone of them on the beautiful Steinburger differ to say some bare knuckles or sd's?
do I have bad taste or does the below just look wonderful? pure utilitarian class
do I have bad taste or does the below just look wonderful? pure utilitarian class
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I've never used EMG's before or even active pickups, how do the tone of them on the beautiful Steinburger differ to say some bare knuckles or sd's?
do I have bad taste or does the below just look wonderful? pure utilitarian class
Looks cack imo
Get an ESP, Ive had Pacifica, Les Paul and tryed many others none come close to the overall quality/playability of my M400 - just a shame im a noob with the FR trem lol.
But then again someone could play my guitar and hate the way it plays they might love the Les Paul etc, who knows.
Those ol' black L-series cricket bats have been uncool for so long that it's about time it started coming round full circle. I say get one, and put yourself on the cool wall [of sound].
Alternatively, Steinberger made a K-series, based on an extremely ergonomic body shape seen on Klein guitars/basses. These are utilitarian in essence, and did I hear you say quirky? I thought you did.
Don't know if they're as rare as hen's teeth or not. I imagine so. Guitarists are conservative, tim'rous wee beasties when it comes to styles that fall outside the 'holy trinity'
Alternatively, Steinberger made a K-series, based on an extremely ergonomic body shape seen on Klein guitars/basses. These are utilitarian in essence, and did I hear you say quirky? I thought you did.
Don't know if they're as rare as hen's teeth or not. I imagine so. Guitarists are conservative, tim'rous wee beasties when it comes to styles that fall outside the 'holy trinity'
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Steinberger guitars are about as cold and artificial as eighties guitars go - there is no wood to give any characteristics, there are no custom wound pickups to add any tone. What you are left with is a generic but well made instrument that has about as much character to play blues as Argos midi keyboard has to play Chopin at Proms. It's not badly made or particularly badly sounding instrument, in the same sense as eighties electronic honey comb drums weren't bad per say. It's just that for the price of wood there is so many better instruments out there that won't make you sound like George Michael backing karaoke track and make you look like you belong with spandex wearing ***** in padded shoulder jackets in queue to benefit office that one has to wonder why, on earth, would you insist on Steinberger?
Nitefly? pfft, this is my current beastie!
Parker Fly Deluxe
Its absolutely sublime too. Everything else just seems clumsy and slow. Plus I think its just about the best looking guitar ever. The tuning system does work, but newer models without the 'fly' wheel are now more difficult to set up. It really is the case of flicking a switch for fixed bridge to floating! However its no floyd rose so after a few minutes of silly noises I set it to hardtail and havn't looked back. The range on tones on offer simply can not be beaten by any other guitar.
Any questions I'll be glad to answer!
EDIT - haha in the picture you can see me browsing the ocuk gear thread... that was around 2 years ago!
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Oh, you guitarists and your ceaseless quest for the perfect tone that embodies your soul. What're you like, eh?
"These electronic effects that everyone uses these days are so clinical and soulless... I only use tape delays and real leslie speaker cabinets. And I insist on recording onto 1" Ampex. Here's our demo platter if you're interested. Oh."
On a more serious note, look at the advantages of a Steinberger: rock-solid tuning and incredibly easy to travel with. The EMGs can be replaced with pickups with a bit more organic warmth if required, too, so that's no biggy.
I have to confess that I've never played a Steinberger [bass, and obviously not guitar], but I do have an Ashbory bass - a tiny, mostly bodiless, all-plastic bass that uses silicon strings. Does it sound thin, cold and artificial? Nope
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Can anyone actually name any acclaimed "blues, rock, funk, acoustic, country or metal" (original poster's chosen genres) guitarist in the world who was or is known to be mainly using Steinberger or Hohner headless instruments?
One would imagine there is a good reason for it?
One would imagine there is a good reason for it?
I need a versitle instrumentm as I play lots of styles.
I've played one of the GU series Steinburgers, and there nice to play, but there the cheapo ones with the wooden necks.
and the steinburger i am looking at the one in the OP, has a maple body unlike the original all-graphite models.
and plus they are very unique you dont often see people with them, and for people who do not know about headless guitars, then they also offer a certain amount of wow factor.
well there just some of my opinions, and tbh the thing about being generic, i mean really.... and a les paul isnt generic??!
Those ol' black L-series cricket bats have been uncool for so long that it's about time it started coming round full circle. I say get one, and put yourself on the cool wall [of sound].
totally agree with you !!! thats kinda why i want one lol.
I'd like one on the transtrem models, but there a bit expensive
there very small aswell which i really like
this is shown well below...
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too big, I'd have to buy a new case, and I'm used to slim electrics really.
how does this tickle ya fancy then, it has a mahogany body, seymour duncan pickups, graphite neck, the rest typical steinberger.... $800! bargain...
http://www.musicyo.com/product_specs.asp?pf_id=254
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There's probably a very good reason why no-one can name any acclaimed acoustic Steinberger guitarists
Mild teasing aside, who can say? As I've already pointed out, guitarists - like everyone else, come to think of it - tend to err on the conservative side, and are concerned about how they present themselves; their choice of guitar is a strong statement.
Couple that with the immensely powerful associations and heritage of 'traditional' [there's a clue-word, right there] body styles used by influential artists that used what they used because they had little choice, and it's not difficult to see why there's not an even distribution of guitar styles. Why do so many guitarists choose to use a white Fender Stratocaster with white scratchplate? Or a bullseye-painted Les Paul? Or even a Hofner violin bass [a really crappy sounding instrument by today's standards if ever there was one]? Are they the very pinnacle of guitar design and technology, or is it because they have such resonant associations?
When you consider how much hero worship goes on in the guitar world, it's not that surprising that the players of the new generation choose to use similar guitars to their heroes in the generation just past.
So most guitarists like to stick to what they know. And they don't know Steinbergers. I see it in the bass world, too. Fender Jazz or Precision... nothing else is 'true'.
Anyway, I'm veering wildly from the topic. It's fairly obvious that yantorsen wants something unusual, and a Steinberger delivers that. A word of advice though, yan: don't wear a baseball cap and/or jumper with your Steinberger. Coolness does not that way lie, evidently
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lol I don't wear baseball caps anyway Well I was pretty sure I wanted a steinburger at the start but hey.
I have just two querries, one people say the EMG's sound clinical etc... is that really a bad thing? surely that would make it more diverse, and usable with all my effects proccessing units?
and secondly, i wanted to know if anybody else actually knows of any other inovative guitars that are quirky, I think I may consider the parker, and I like the pickup switching on the Brian May guitar, but the guitar itself looks a bit naff.
But in the same time he uses words like "wow factor". Steinbergers have no Wow factor for at least quarter century now. They were actually not very liked in their own time, apart from short surge of attention from bass players, for very good reason too (weight).simisker said:
There was a short period of time when Gibson tried to revive "coolness" of 80ies paddles and after long fight they decided there was not a single soul in professional business that would actually go back to spandex and boxer shoes and the only way to make any money back was to head for Walmart "daddy has midlife crysis" market - so they wrecked the names of companies they took over and released knock off range of cheap, awful Kramers with trademark hockey stick heads and Steinberger Spirit series with passive "EMG design" chinese pickups. If there was any coolness still remaining in this range, some unbelched attraction left over from heavy hangover memories of bushy perm, red Michael Jackson leather jacket and Stock Atken And Waterman raping of Band Aid 2 - the nineties re-issues of Steinbergers killed any sympathy or collectors value of those instruments.
yantorsen - and please, please stop calling them Steinburgers - I suddenly get soooo hungry.
lol.
well in fairness the one im looking at is made in the same factory as Gibsons are, in Nashville.
situation...
"my guitar has no headstock!"
"why, what you mean?"
"Look..."
"wow thats so cool! But how does it work?"
quote from above poster: daddy has midlife crysis
think somebodies been playing too many computer games, considering you brought up my spelling mistake
well in fairness the one im looking at is made in the same factory as Gibsons are, in Nashville.
situation...
"my guitar has no headstock!"
"why, what you mean?"
"Look..."
"wow thats so cool! But how does it work?"
quote from above poster: daddy has midlife crysis
think somebodies been playing too many computer games, considering you brought up my spelling mistake
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I'm excused - I'm a foreigner, I can make spelling mistakes, mix up structures and do funny accents.
You, on the other hand, sir - soon you will be the owner of the said Steinburger (proud member of Gypson, Mashville family, quality since (...)snip other blurb). I just though I'd point out the little nuance - in case you wished to roll with style now. In coolness. Pardon me. I digress. So, you were out with your guitar last night sir? And ladies seemed puzzled by the a lack of head on the bat, sir? Did they think it was cool? Did they want it sir? Suit you sir. Oooh. Suit you.
You, on the other hand, sir - soon you will be the owner of the said Steinburger (proud member of Gypson, Mashville family, quality since (...)snip other blurb). I just though I'd point out the little nuance - in case you wished to roll with style now. In coolness. Pardon me. I digress. So, you were out with your guitar last night sir? And ladies seemed puzzled by the a lack of head on the bat, sir? Did they think it was cool? Did they want it sir? Suit you sir. Oooh. Suit you.
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TBH, A guitar alone can't make you look cool, if you look like a dork anyway even a £15,000 limited edition guitar wont help (well it might for a split second)
(well it might for a split second)