Top paid jobs in the uk

fini · 11 Dec 2007 at 13:38

KingAdora said:
Yeah ditto Morba really.
How many "pharmacologists" get burned to death saving others each year?

They might not be risking their lives, but an incompetent pharmocologist could kill a lot more people in a day than a competent fire fighter could save.

I don't buy this 'they're always risking their lives' concept. The amount of firefighters that die is actually tiny and, as such, firefighting is actually a relatively safe profession.

EDIT: I went looking for a few stats and all I could find was that no UK firefighters died on duty in 2001 and that firefighting doesn't even make the top 10 of dangerous jobs in the UK.

PikeyPriest · 11 Dec 2007 at 13:39

KingAdora said:
I believe 'staff' are like the paramedics you see getting out of the ambulance, but they have 'technician' written on the back of their jacket. I don't think they're allowed to inject drugs or something.

I think technician is a MUCH shorter course than the paramedic course and the level of expertise is really different. I cant remember the lengths of the training course off the top of my head though.

Phog · 11 Dec 2007 at 14:25

Sorry, what does politician come under there?

Indy500 · 11 Dec 2007 at 14:26

Phog said:
Sorry, what does politician come under there?

Senior civil servants? Although politicians usually get double that..~£150k

Welshy · 11 Dec 2007 at 14:29

Software Professional's are ranked at 50?! I thought it'd be much higher

Ah well, aiming to go into IT management though, so lets say 13th for me

scorza · 11 Dec 2007 at 14:47

sr4470 said:
Senior civil servants? Although politicians usually get double that..~£150k

The civil service does not include politicians - in fact it's supposed to be completely apolitical.

MP's salary is ~£60k http://www.parliament.uk/documents/upload/M05.pdf (though they do get rather generous expenses and allowances

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Indy500 · 11 Dec 2007 at 14:48

scorza said:
(though they do get rather generous expenses and allowances )

I was including those.

Morba · 11 Dec 2007 at 14:56

PikeyPriest said:
If you are going to use that argument shouldn't soldiers get paid far more than firefighters? Didn't stats show that the death/injury rate wasn't particularly high anyway? (dont get me wrong, i`m not saying they don't do a great job, but i dont think your arguments for the salary are strong)

Then again i`m lining up for #2 - Doctor Just another 18 months to go (with passing everything)

the argument should not be about firemen being paid too much, they are not paid enough. the argument you want to have is that the others are not paid anywhere near enough for their expertise and time, for which i would agree fully.

Morba · 11 Dec 2007 at 14:57

fini said:
They might not be risking their lives, but an incompetent pharmocologist could kill a lot more people in a day than a competent fire fighter could save.

I don't buy this 'they're always risking their lives' concept. The amount of firefighters that die is actually tiny and, as such, firefighting is actually a relatively safe profession.

EDIT: I went looking for a few stats and all I could find was that no UK firefighters died on duty in 2001 and that firefighting doesn't even make the top 10 of dangerous jobs in the UK.

relatively 'safe' due to the training and the skills as a team maybe?
an incompetent firefighter could allow a lot more people to die than an incompetent doctor ;]

fini · 11 Dec 2007 at 15:02

Morba said:
an incompetent firefighter could allow a lot more people to die than an incompetent doctor ;]

I highly doubt that given the amount of patients a doctor may be dealing with.

The training you're talking about pales in comparison to the years of training to do any of the other careers I mentioned.

[FnG]magnolia · 11 Dec 2007 at 15:07

#94 - Buyers and Purchasing Officers - £30k

Generally more than this but there or thereabouts for a mid level buyer.

iviv · 11 Dec 2007 at 15:14

#67 - Surveyor (Quantity)
£33k ^_^

Need to get chartered and a few more years of work to be near that, though

Morba · 11 Dec 2007 at 15:19

fini said:
I highly doubt that given the amount of patients a doctor may be dealing with.

The training you're talking about pales in comparison to the years of training to do any of the other careers I mentioned.

ok, lets think... a burning office building with 300+ people trapped in it... will take a doctor a bit longer than 1 day to kill 300 people, after 5 he / she would be looked at by superiors surely.
the training does pale in comparison, should that matter?

fini · 11 Dec 2007 at 15:23

A burning office building will not be dealt with by one firefighter though, but by a whole team - there is thus group actions and that of a single incompetent firefighter will not be obvious. How often do 500 people get trapped in a burning building in the UK anyway?

Of course training should matter. If you've spent 3,4,5 years training to do something you should be paid more than someone who has just walked in off the street and decides to give it a go.

Zip · 11 Dec 2007 at 15:27

fini said:
Of course training should matter. If you've spent 3,4,5 years training to do something you should be paid more than someone who has just walked in off the street and decides to give it a go.

Clearly you have no idea what you have to go through to become a fire fighter.
It might not be years and years of training even though they learn and do courses All the time. But they have Very Physical training and entrance levels.
Just because you dont spend your life reading books in uni and doing other crap like that doesnt mean you dont deserve to be payed as well as people that do

Morba · 11 Dec 2007 at 15:32

fini said:
Of course training should matter. If you've spent 3,4,5 years training to do something you should be paid more than someone who has just walked in off the street and decides to give it a go.

ok, so your argument is that firefighters should be paid relative to doctors, nurses and armed forces, right?

so why not argue that doctors, nurses and armed forces should be paid more, not lessen the very low amount that firefighters get as it is, just ot make it comparable!

Scuzi · 11 Dec 2007 at 15:35

18th, I'm happy with that

However that average seems quite low, it must take trainees and much smaller units into account.

Look at my willy!

So where's our top 10 earners? I'm pretty sure we have a few on here.

fini · 11 Dec 2007 at 15:35

Zip said:
Clearly you have no idea what you have to go through to become a fire fighter.

Very presumptuous of you.

Zip said:
It might not be years and years of training even though they learn and do courses All the time. But they have Very Physical training and entrance levels.

So someone who did do years and years of training should be paid more - otherwise what is the point of doing years and years of training?

Zip said:
Just because you dont spend your life reading books in uni and doing other crap like that doesnt mean you dont deserve to be payed as well as people that do

I agree that you can gain skills through practical applications rather than uni etc, but thats not the point here. If there were years and years of skills that you needed to build up, either through uni or through experience in other working areas, before becoming a firefighter then you'd have a point - but there aren't.

The Dread Pirate · 11 Dec 2007 at 15:36

Scuzi said:
18th, I'm happy with that

However that average seems quite low, it must take trainees and much smaller units into account.

Look at my willy!

So where's our top 10 earners? I'm pretty sure we have a few on here.

No doubt Spie = #1.

Morba · 11 Dec 2007 at 15:39

Scuzi said:
So where's our top 10 earners? I'm pretty sure we have a few on here.

in terms of money im in the top 5 ;]
you are also in that area arent you?