9600GT to be the first product of Geforce 9 series

[helmutcheese]

I ideally wont ever run 2 Cards, I would rather buy the 1 faster card and carry the cost.

I see little point in doing so, power/heat etc etc and simply a PIA and not 100% support in all Games.

I feel you simply dont want a Nvidia card and will buy a ATI card even if lesser, infact will buy 2 ATI cards to try get back in the running

 

[HighlandeR]

I think the 9800 series will show performance around 2.5 times better than 8800 as they have had the time to get it right. If nvidia do that ati better come to the table with something just as good or better or they maybe in trouble.

Proberly right with that, Nvidia have milked the GTX for a very long time and only recently people are craving a new card due to Crysis, I feel Nvidia will cater for that market this February and obliterate ATI for another year and more.

 

[Teaf]

I'm not really expecting a massive jump up tbh... (a) There is no point as only one badly optimised game currently brings the 8800 GTX to it's knees with AA/high res... and (b) there's no competition. I don't think the 9600GT is going to be even near the performance of a 8800GT and I'm expecting the 9800GT/S range to be as good as an 8800 Ultra, nothing more.

 

[Darkwave]

There is no point as only one badly optimised game currently brings the 8800 GTX to it's knees with AA/high res

Assuming this is Crysis, where is your evidence that it's badly optimised and not just massively intensive by default? "Badly-optimised" is a term that's getting thrown around like confetti lately and it's getting tiring.

 

[TheRealDeal]

ignore

 

[helmutcheese]

dp ignore

 

[helmutcheese]

Assuming this is Crysis, where is your evidence that it's badly optimised and not just massively intensive by default? "Badly-optimised" is a term that's getting thrown around like confetti lately and it's getting tiring.

Is it, Crysis is bugged, the Game was not even written to be GPU Dependant so his info is correct, you can all kid yourself on it aint, google "Crysis Interview" read all the last 1 years worth.

 

[Darkwave]

Is it, Crysis is bugged, the Game was not even written to be GPU Depenbdant so his ionfo ios correct, you can all kid yourself on it aint, google "Crysis Interview" read all the last 1 years worth.

If I do that all I see is Cevat Yerli saying that Crysis is designed with future hardware in mind. I want to see some real, hard evidence of it being "badly optimised", instead of the speculation continually thrown out by people who are simply bitter that they can't max it out.

As for it having bugs, well... I think the last game I played with no bugs was Donkey Kong.

 

[helmutcheese]

Your quote went wrong somewhere and I had a typo in it so info is wrong.

I will never run 2 cards, and yes I rather have 1 8800Ultra than 2 of any ATI card.

 

[Darkwave]

Your quote went wrong somewhere and I had a typo in it so info is wrong.

I shall requote then: -

Is it, Crysis is bugged, the Game was not even written to be GPU Dependant so his info is correct, you can all kid yourself on it aint, google "Crysis Interview" read all the last 1 years worth.

Proof, please. Cevat Yerli said many, many times that it was designed with future hardware in mind so unless you have some actual evidence to disprove that then you're pulling all this out of thin-air.

 

[helmutcheese]

If I do that all I see is Cevat Yerli saying that Crysis is designed with future hardware in mind. I want to see some real, hard evidence of it being "badly optimised", instead of the speculation continually thrown out by people bitter they can't max it.

As for it having bugs, well... I think the last game I played with no bugs was Donkey Kong.

Then you dont read it too well, the game is made ready for todays Hardware like 8800GTS etc, the Games Engine is however made to unlease settings in the future upto 1.5years (AFAIR) into future with PATCHES (not as it stands now).

You need read them all not jsut ones you like the ound of m8, the game is major flawed or he told a lot of BS, either way he does not get my cash.

Judging a GPU on that 1 crap Game is not too clever, and buying more and more hardware to throw at 1 game to try run it is not either.

 

[Teaf]

Assuming this is Crysis, where is your evidence that it's badly optimised and not just massively intensive by default? "Badly-optimised" is a term that's getting thrown around like confetti lately and it's getting tiring.

Their engine rules, it's probably the best engine ever made in terms of complexity and physics but Crysis itself as a game is not optimised to a standard that should be expected from a PC game at retail. You can spend an hour on the config file alone and tweak performance to a level that is higher than what they give you with pre-determined settings in game. But people shouldn't have to be trawling through engine commands to optimise the game, it should be done by Crytek. This isn't including the games bugs that should have been fixed for retail.

If I do that all I see is Cevat Yerli saying that Crysis is designed with future hardware in mind.

I think he means the games engine rather than the game. The engine is nasty on current hardware because it's way above the level of current technology which is fantastic because the engine rocks and it'll do superb for games for the next 2 years. But Crysis the game is not optimised even near what it should have been. Personally I think they got too "trigger happy" with their engine and it's too intensive. They could have optimised it to a point where it looks fantasic, physics are stunning and whatnot on current hardware and still have one of the best games to date... but they failed in that respect.

And sorry, not trying to turn this into a Crysis thread. We have enough of those already

 

[helmutcheese]

I shall requote then: -

Proof, please. Cevat Yerli said many, many times that it was designed with future hardware in mind so unless you have some actual evidence to disprove that then you're pulling all this out of thin-air.

PROOF, your as lazy as the others, GO AND GOOGLE IT, or use the DAMN SEARCH HERE, I HAVE POSTED it till IM BLUE in the FACE.

I never pull any INFO out the air so stop talking out your ****.

For the last time, Crysis is not made today to run tomorrows hardware (so he claimed), thats with addition PATCHES, its supposed to be MAX'able at 1280's with a 8800GTS and to run at 1600's or higher more powerfull hardware is needed (nearly word for word what he said, so that would be 8800GTX/Ultra's IMO).

 

[Darkwave]

Then you dont read it too well, the game is made ready for todays Hardware like 8800GTS etc, the Games Engine is however made to unlease settings in the future upto 1.5years (AFAIR) into future with PATCHES (not as it stands now).

Proof, please. Cevat Yerli said many, many times that it was designed with future hardware in mind.

You need read them all not jsut ones you like the ound of m8, the game is major flawed or he told a lot of BS, either way he does not get my cash.

And you need to prove that what he said was BS, it's not so just because you say so.

Judging a GPU on that 1 crap Game is not too clever, and buying more and more hardware to throw at 1 game to try run it is not either.

Does anyone actually upgrade for just one game, did anyone even say that?

Crysis itself as a game is not optimised to a standard that should be expected from a PC game at retail.

I'm still waiting for evidence to support claims like this.

PROOF, your as lazy as the others, GO AND GOOGLE IT, or use the DAMN SEARCH HERE, I HAVE POSTED it till IM BLUE in the FACE.

I never pull any INFO out the air so stop talking out your ****.

This, helmutcheese, is why I always get tired of talking to you. You just go mental when you can't prove your point, why don't you just grow up instead of throwing a skitz?



The bottom line, and you can call it "BS" if you want but at least provide evidence: -

Yerli: What we are aiming for is going two years back in the hardware specs, and we will go one and a half years in the future. That literally means we can support the future before its here. We will support two year old hardware in every aspect and make sure it’s available.

 

[TheRealDeal]

Your quote went wrong somewhere and I had a typo in it so info is wrong.

I will never run 2 cards, and yes I rather have 1 8800Ultra than 2 of any ATI card.

Not for me if performance is better i would go for the 2 cards and thats what i am gonna do when the 3870s come back in stock which will give me one of the fastest gpu setups money can buy and price performance will destroy an ultra sorry you can't see this.

 

[helmutcheese]

Are you mad, you need to go and learn to use Google, I aint your personal assistant, I posted it here many times before.

I can be wrong daily, but I know for fact everything I said is on websites said by him, you go look for it.

You cant disprove it as its true what I said, your either to lazy or thick to go look in this Forum using SEARCH and my nick+Crysis as Keywords (then have long read to try find posts as many) or Google the same a i did.

You told a guy his info was wrong, where as he was correct ands you were wrong, that 1 Game is a joke for now and who in their right mind will judge hardware by it as nothing runs it well as its so messed up, and where is the 10 day patch ?, seems like 30days now.

Lamer on ignore perm.

 

[Teaf]

I'm still waiting for evidence to support claims like this.

I'm not running around finding your proof for you, either believe me or don't believe me, that's up to you. Although i tweaked my config after hours of work to be at a level that's well above the "High" settings (except post processing) in game, it looks better, plays overall better and I lost in total about 3 FPS. I'm not attempting to convince you that I'm right, from your replies you aren't going to believe anything I write and unless it comes from the developers you'll not be happy. But that's your call, if you think the game is well optimised and you are happy with it then I'm happy for you, but I don't think it is and that's my opinion.

 

[TheRealDeal]

Crysis for me is not a well optimised game yes it has better graphics than cod 4 but cod 4 runs much better and is not far behind on the visuals. If crysis is the future of gaming engines then we better get our credit cards out and spend mega money as we will need it to run it at any decent fps

 

[Darkwave]

Lamer on ignore perm.

Your attitude speaks volumes about how much I was wasting my time trying to have a sensible discussion with you. I am going to consider it a blessing that someone like you has me on ignore.

I'm not running around finding your proof for you, either believe me or don't believe me, that's up to you.

Surely if you're going to make a bold claim like "Crysis is badly optimised and that's why it runs so badly on current hardware", something completely contradictory to what the guy who actually made the game has been saying for ages, then you'd have the evidence to hand.

No offense to you as an individual, but the words of the actual creator hold a bit more water.

Crysis for me is not a well optimised game yes it has better graphics than cod 4 but cod 4 runs much better and is not far behind on the visuals.

Crysis visuals are leaps and bounds ahead of Call Of Duty 4 and this is coming from someone who loves both.

 

[TheRealDeal]

Your attitude speaks volumes about how much I was wasting my time trying to have a sensible discussion with you. I am going to consider it a blessing that someone like you has me on ignore.

Surely if you're going to make a bold claim like "Crysis is badly optimised and that's why it runs so badly on current hardware", something completely contradictory to what the guy who actually made the game has been saying for ages, then you'd have the evidence to hand.

No offense to you as an individual, but the words of the actual creator hold a bit more water.

Crysis visuals are leaps and bounds ahead of Call Of Duty 4 and this is coming from someone who loves both.

I have played both sp's and just can't see the leaps and bounds. Answer me though is it 2 times better looking maybe 3 as thats what the fps difference is. Those screen shots are a pretty bad example 1 guy has a mask on with no decent visual background.