For or against corporal punishment in schools ?

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corporal punishment in schools, for or against it?

It sickens me sitting here watching some of the kids in school do the things they do and get nothing but 30minutes sat in a silent room for it

most of the kids here do whatever they want, EG one knocked on the office door and ran away, camera caught him so my manager went and gave him an afterschool detention, the kid came back to the office 5minutes later swung the door open and shouted "**** head" at my manager.......CHARMING!

all he'll get for this is 1 day suspension which he'll just spend smoking on a street corner or even doing the stupid thing kids decide to do.......come back into school and hang around by the gate :rolleyes:

i honestly beleave schools will never get better without MUCH more harsh treatment towards the bad apples, so whos for and against it? any chance of a poll?

i know none of the governments have the backbone to even consider it sadly, but it'd be nice to see other peoples views on it
 
I'm very much for it.

I'd hate to think how much time I lost due to idiots ruining the rest of the people in the classes education. :mad:
 
For it. My wife is a teacher and they are essentially powerless to do anything as far as discipline goes.

They give detentions but the kids just don't turn up. The schools have been told they are not allowed to exclude kids anymore ('leave no kid behind') so the kids know there is a line which the school can't cross.

I know that if I break the rules at work I get fired, the kids just don't have that anymore.
 
Have to say I'm for it, schools/society is/are getting really quite shocking now days. I'm 'only' 20, but even I remember when my town was a much nicer place, with very few little oiks, now though the place is full of them, so is the school. It used to just be a couple of naughty kids per year, now though (well, when I left 6th form...so 2005 :p) it's most of them that are harassing (not just being naughty kids) other pupils and teachers.

InvG
 
I'm very much for it.

I'd hate to think how much time I lost due to idiots ruining the rest of the people in the classes education. :mad:

if i could add up all the time ive lost in education and work due to trouble children it'd probably add up to a good few years worth, even college where people are meant to be a little more grown up and willing to learn i was still constantly distracted by 2 troublesome individuals

there are a few nice ones who are polite and interested in learning, but there far and few around anymore in my experiance.
 
For it. They need to learn young, that there is a cost to poor behaviour other than just harsh words. The fear alone of the slipper was enough to keep me on the straight and narrow when I was a small child.
 
Even college where people are meant to be a little more grown up and willing to learn i was still constantly distracted by 2 troublesome individuals

Tell me about it, there's two chaps sat behind me who've been chatting about WoW all morning, one of them has done next to no work since September, he's getting away scot free, for now.

It really annoys me to be honest, because the I:Media bunch need to go do some ponsey research project between 9 and 10:30 on a Tuesday we come into the room and find the games lot spread out like wild chickens, leaving us no option of where to sit.

Hopefully the class will start thinning out soon so the people who want to learn can do so without the people not wanting to learn taking up tutor time.

And now I've just incriminated myself I need to do 5 minutes work. ;)
 
For.

Never did me any harm. Well, not development-wise - at the time there was plenty harm, but it stopped me being a plank. :D

And I bet a lot more people would get into teaching if they knew that the little gits would actually be punished if they misbehaved.
 
For.

The Abuse cases would be a tiny issue compared to the good it would do, let the little kiddies know, they maybe able to run riot at home, but they're not at home.
 
Against.

It is up to the parents to discipline the children, the school's job is to educate.
 
Against.

It is up to the parents to discipline the children, the school's job is to educate.

But the parents don't, and the schools are filling up with little yobs that can get away with abusing the staff, only when it is truly serious, like a knifing/gunning will the police be involved to dish out punishment...which in all honesty is sod all anyway.

InvG
 
Against.

It is up to the parents to discipline the children, the school's job is to educate.

the problem is they cant educate the ones that just wont learn willingly, the ones who dont have parents to dicipline them/wont dicipline them

those exact ones are stopping others from learning too, this is why they should be punished in a way that actually teaches them to stop doing the things there doing
 
Against.

It is up to the parents to discipline the children, the school's job is to educate.

Its the responsibility of any adult who has anything to do with these kids to teach them right from wrong and discipline them if necessary, not just the parents.
 
Against.

It is up to the parents to discipline the children, the school's job is to educate.

For it.

My parents disciplined me very strictly yet the cane is the thing I lived in fear of at School.

It kept me on the right side of the school rules 95% of the time.

It hurt, you tend to remember punishments like that.

These days kids know adults cannot touch them and a lot act accordingly.

An animal will bite a wayward youngster to let it know its error and the youngster learns from it.

We just end up with kids that act like animals.
 
for, although half the people at my old school that would have been punished would probably hit back, even if it was a woman teacher.
 
Against.

It is up to the parents to discipline the children, the school's job is to educate.

Agreed, maybe Society needs to find a way to reflect children's behaviour onto parents more so that parents do take more interest in how the children behave.
 
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