What are you talking about...?
And as [TW]Fox says they were killed for being homosexual, not having sex.
Iran: two youths to be flogged and thrown off a cliff
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What are you talking about...?
And as [TW]Fox says they were killed for being homosexual, not having sex.
i dont agree with why they were killed what im saying is they knew it was coming if they were acting on there feelings
if they didnt act on any feelings then there was no crime?
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So you're basically saying, if those people really want to change things then they can damn well get some of their population slaughtered in a bloody conflict before they can have the change! Nice.
And I'm guessing you're agreeing that the mass genocide of the Jews was wrong. You could argue more easily that the Jews have a choice in the matter, so that lends even more weight to the fact that gay people, who don't have a choice, shouldn't be killed for being gay.
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Thats the problem they are all trying to get in the uk !
When there is more of them than us will we have to follow their daft laws !
Just because "they knew it was coming" it still doesn't matter it right, that's the point.
The whole thing is that they shouldn't be forced to keep quiet about it, or get killed.
No, I'm arguing about whether Manchester United are the best football team or not.
Corporal punishment? Sure you don't mean capital?
Show me a revolution that isn't bloody. It's not nice, but it's certainly better than another country imposing there will for a "regime change" Which is morally questionable....I bet the Nazi's thought invading other countries was correct too- if you agree in "regime change" then you'll agree the Nazi's had every right to invade other countries. Oh wait I bet you don't, because the Nazi's ideals were wrong and you're right.
yeah
they should if its illigal, there is no speed limit where i live, does that mean if i go to england i should be able to speed as much as i want because i dont agree with that law?
So you are saying what? That the Nazi ideals were right? I mean, the Jews knew being a Jew in that country was wrong, yes? So why didnt they just leave. They had it coming, didn't they? The holocaust was completely justified, wasn't it? Their country, after all?
No, but it does mean that, following you being caught speeding in the UK, murdering you by flinging you over a cliff as a result would be a tad on the barbaric side.
Jesus christ, have you been paying any attention in this thread? You have a choice whether you speed or not, and you don't have a choice whether you are gay or not. PLUS, even if you did speed as much as you want, you shouldn't be killed for it for god's sake! How is this not incredibly obvious?
But that still doesn't make it right does it? I hate these Nazi comparisons because they are so cliched, but yes, if you were a Jew in Nazi Germany, then you should damn well know what would happen if caught, and you should have left the country yea?
yeah ive read the thread
YOU CHOOSE IF YOU ACT ON BEEN GAY, THEY MUST HAVE ACTED ON IT TO BE COUGHT
im not saying what happend was right what im saying is that it is a law in there country, they knew what was gonna hapen if they were found out but they did it anyway
i do however believe that this country is so wet there is more laws protecting criminals than there is protecting joe public, if we had harsher/more barbaric laws maybe we wouldnt be a safe haven for people to trample all over us and maybe people would uphold the law rather than doing what they wanted
But that still doesn't make it right does it? I hate these Nazi comparisons because they are so cliched, but yes, if you were a Jew in Nazi Germany, then you should damn well know what would happen if caught, and you should have left the country yea?
yeah or acted like u were a christian
if u dont like a countrys laws dont live there ffs, if you think u were gonna be killed for doing summot and you would rather be killed than not doing it then go for it because they obviously did
Yea cos like all those bloody immigrants and stuff like, and those smackheads on the streets raping our children, we should start being more barbaric so those criminals start learning how to be more civilised! That'll show em! You figure that out all by yourself or you read it in the Daily Express?
Jesus, how old are you? This isn't Bebo.
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Yea, I know! Those gays should just up and leave their family, their friends, their livelihood and their home, because hey, they're gay, so they damn well should either keep quiet about it or leave! The inevitability of something happening, doesn't automatically mean, that when it does happen, it's perfectly okay for it to happen.
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No you don't but they had a choice in probably having sex together. Why is our way ethically superior? What right do you have to say it is?
Can you not see it is your own stubborness and arrogance why there is violence between countries? Your own viewpoint is exactly the same as a religious extremist, not willing to accept other countries systems. If you came to power would you do something to the country because "your way is right" perhaps start a war?
i couldnt be botherd to bold it up so caps would do, so im presuming that facebook use bold for shouting?
and no i didnt read that in the express but ** all sat here slagging a country off for upholding there laws. im sorry but if i lived in that country and i was gay id move to england use lot would stick up for me and the goverment would pay.. win win
i woudlnt be gay and stay in that country tho as id be killed
do you believe what your saying or are you just sitting ere tryig to be mr PC because u think you should be?
Unless you attack the problem from some mad warped sense of right and wrong, I'd say that it's normally better to have people alive, than to kill them, regardless of the crime. So yes, I'd say my system is better, because people's lives are saved rather than destroyed. If it was so morally ambiguous between killing someone and letting them live, it would almost become perfectly acceptable just to kill someone for however small a reason.