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Kreeeee · 18 Jan 2008 at 10:12

scorza said:
Love it when Microsoft try to put positive spin on bad news. They might have a larger share of the total consumer spending, but this could be equally explained away by the fact that the 360 was for much of the year £100 more expensive than the Wii. Plus they've totally ripped their customers off with the HD-DVD drive that will soon be obsolete and need replacing with the BluRay version

My, my, you are touchy today aren't you

Bonjour · 18 Jan 2008 at 10:14

scorza said:
Love it when Microsoft try to put positive spin on bad news. They might have a larger share of the total consumer spending, but this could be equally explained away by the fact that the 360 was for much of the year £100 more expensive than the Wii. Plus they've totally ripped their customers off with the HD-DVD drive that will soon be obsolete and need replacing with the BluRay version

Erm..

Nonsense?

McManicMan · 18 Jan 2008 at 10:30

Kreeeee said:
I love the sony fangirls excuses in threads like these. The 360 is still dominating the PS3

and so it should do its had a year head start, but i do expect things to slow down now for MS as they are already

Kyle009 · 18 Jan 2008 at 10:41

Kreeeee said:
I love the sony fangirls excuses in threads like these.

mmj_uk · 18 Jan 2008 at 10:47

Something like this article would have been more worthy of a discussion.

McManicMan · 18 Jan 2008 at 10:53

mmj_uk said:
Something like this article would have been more worthy of a discussion.

yep, esp this bit

PS3 managed to sell pretty much the exact same amount of units in its first year as the 360 did – whilst dealing with some of the most negative press in gaming history,

people seem to forget this, not bad for a console that had nothing much going for it in its 1st year

Attu90 · 18 Jan 2008 at 10:53

Kreeeee said:
I love the sony fangirls excuses in threads like these. The 360 is still dominating the PS3

In North America but what about world wide figures, you cant just look at a set of figures for one area of the world (North America) and say the 360 selling better than the PS3.
If you look at the whole picture you will see that only in North America is the 360 selling better than the PS3 and in reality the PS3 is doing better with world wide sales.
One area the 360 does very well on is software sales due it its large user base.
So on excuses, just plain facts ...the 360 isnt dominating the PS3, well not unless you just using NA figures and want to forget about the rest of the world.

Kreeeee · 18 Jan 2008 at 11:00

McManicMan said:
and so it should do its had a year head start, but i do expect things to slow down now for MS as they are already

Maybe, but for now the 360 is winning and the excuses are flying.

Mr Men · 18 Jan 2008 at 11:03

Kreeeee said:
I love the sony fangirls excuses in threads like these. The 360 is still dominating the PS3

JaFFa · 18 Jan 2008 at 11:07

just to clarify a bit who are NPD? Google keeps throwing democratic germans and links to other sites talking about npd sales figures.

NokkonWud · 18 Jan 2008 at 11:12

scorza said:
Love it when Microsoft try to put positive spin on bad news. They might have a larger share of the total consumer spending, but this could be equally explained away by the fact that the 360 was for much of the year £100 more expensive than the Wii. Plus they've totally ripped their customers off with the HD-DVD drive that will soon be obsolete and need replacing with the BluRay version

I'd disagree with you there. The Wii isn't a rival console, it's another console. For £100 more it offers a lot more than the Wii, so why would you mention it I don't know. As for 'ripping people off', what *******, they did far from that. In fact, they had it as an optional extra so that you didn't get ripped off.

scorza · 18 Jan 2008 at 11:19

nokkonwud said:
I'd disagree with you there. The Wii isn't a rival console, it's another console. For £100 more it offers a lot more than the Wii, so why would you mention it I don't know. As for 'ripping people off', what *******, they did far from that. In fact, they had it as an optional extra so that you didn't get ripped off.

Microsoft included the Wii in their sales spin, so they obviously think that the Wii is a rival console

The people who bought the almost-obsolete HD-DVD drive got ripped off I mean. I hope Microsoft do the decent thing and give those who bought it some free HD downloads from their inevitable movie download service.

Attu90 · 18 Jan 2008 at 11:21

JaFFa said:
just to clarify a bit who are NPD? Google keeps throwing democratic germans and links to other sites talking about npd sales figures.

NPD is a market research company that track sales figure.
The games figures we see from NPD are for North America only and they are compiled by estimating sales figures from the leading retailers in the US like Wal-mart etc.

Mr Men · 18 Jan 2008 at 11:30

scorza said:
The people who bought the almost-obsolete HD-DVD drive got ripped off I mean. I hope Microsoft do the decent thing and give those who bought it some free HD downloads from their inevitable movie download service.

LOL so how did they get ripped off? the people that bought it did so off their own back for their own reasons and its hardly obsolete not even almost. Did Sony rip off people with the Dual Shock 3, did Nintendo rip people off by limiting supply at Christmas....nevermind MS is bad ok

Bonjour · 18 Jan 2008 at 11:36

scorza said:
Microsoft included the Wii in their sales spin, so they obviously think that the Wii is a rival console

The people who bought the almost-obsolete HD-DVD drive got ripped off I mean. I hope Microsoft do the decent thing and give those who bought it some free HD downloads from their inevitable movie download service.

What about all the people that bought other branded HD-DVD drives, such as Toshiba etc? Should they get some sort of recompense?

It's not like Microsoft forced people to buy the thing.

D.P. · 18 Jan 2008 at 11:49

Smit said:
The figures are probably about right for the American Market.

Yes, the 360 does very well in the US but fairly mediocre in Europe and absolutely dire in japan.

Plus the figures don't indicate actual company profit, just that the 360 and associated games are more expensive than the Wii and associated games.

slambo69 · 18 Jan 2008 at 11:58

D.P. said:
Yes, the 360 does very well in the US but fairly mediocre in Europe and absolutely dire in japan.

Plus the figures don't indicate actual company profit, just that the 360 and associated games are more expensive than the Wii and associated games.

I read Halo 3 beat wii play to be the biggest selling game.

Bonjour · 18 Jan 2008 at 12:02

D.P. said:
Yes, the 360 does very well in the US but fairly mediocre in Europe and absolutely dire in japan.

Plus the figures don't indicate actual company profit, just that the 360 and associated games are more expensive than the Wii and associated games.

Are the games more expensive?

Not really from my experience, especially with games now being re-released as 'Classics' for £20.

moody · 18 Jan 2008 at 12:31

Can anyone tell me when all my hd-dvds will stop working? I need to know so that I know at which point I'm going to feel ripped off for paying £100 to get one foot into the HD market.

KNiVES · 18 Jan 2008 at 12:37

I really eagerly anticipate the day when/if Microsoft slumps into third place in sales behind the Wii and PS3. I would love to see the spin they put into that.