Redundancy

Richiev4 · 21 Jan 2008 at 19:18

Hi all

Can't be specific but is it legal to make people redundant and then bring in people from India to do those jobs.

Thanks

Rich

kibblerok · 21 Jan 2008 at 19:19

Richiev4 said:
Hi all

Can't be specific but is it legal to make people redundant and then bring in people from India to do those jobs.

Thanks

Rich

Bring them in to this country or send the work abroad?

If its the latter, yes.

Sankari · 21 Jan 2008 at 19:26

Richiev4 said:
Hi all

Can't be specific but is it legal to make people redundant and then bring in people from India to do those jobs.

Thanks

Rich

Don't quote me on this, but I'm pretty sure the answer is "Yes".

It seems to be happening quite a bit these days, and not just in the UK.

scorza · 21 Jan 2008 at 19:52

I believe that if they are bringing Indian workers into the UK then they have to pay them at the same rate they would do a British worker (which begs the question, why do it?). However no-one does and thus far they've got away with it.

Jokester · 21 Jan 2008 at 19:54

If you mean they are bringing in Indians to do the same job here in the UK then it is illegal, if you mean they are exporting the jobs to India then no it isn't illegal.

Can't remember the exact rules, but you can't make someone redundant then immediately hire someone else to fill that role.

Gilly · 21 Jan 2008 at 19:55

scorza said:
I believe that if they are bringing Indian workers into the UK then they have to pay them at the same rate they would do a British worker (which begs the question, why do it?). However no-one does and thus far they've got away with it.

They can't make someone redundant unless it is voluntary if the position is still required to be filled.

PhillyDee · 21 Jan 2008 at 19:56

I believe they have to wait 6 months. But im not certain on that one.

kirkland · 21 Jan 2008 at 20:12

You can dismiss people for incompetence, negative attitude, general distruption, breaking company rulles and long term absences..also misconduct etc.

However reundancy is a non worker inspired dissmissal, so when the workers fullfillemnt is no longer needed.

Talbs13 · 21 Jan 2008 at 20:21

Is this legal?

Someone in my office was leaving, gave 3 months notice. 1 month ago they called him in and said we want to offer you a redundacy package 1 month before he leaves. They said they didnt have enough work for him to do but they had hired someone 1 month ago to do the same job? Such a nice guy.

Its bull****. No?

weringo · 21 Jan 2008 at 20:25

What you're saying is illegal, as I have learnt from The Office

, when you make someone reduntant you cannot replace them with someone else or the person in question can take legal action.

Gilly · 21 Jan 2008 at 20:27

Talbs13 said:
Someone in my office was leaving, gave 3 months notice. 1 month ago they called him in and said we want to offer you a redundacy package 1 month before he leaves. They said they didnt have enough work for him to do but they had hired someone 1 month ago to do the same job? Such a nice guy.

Eh?

MuvverRussia · 21 Jan 2008 at 21:05

What it could be is part of an offshoring package, whereby the company in question is bringing people to the UK for a fixed term as part of their training. These people will then return to India to work. This is legal.

SexyGreyFox · 21 Jan 2008 at 21:09

There is another way around making people redundant and putting someone else in their job.
They give the job a new title and change the job slightly.

Sankari · 21 Jan 2008 at 21:54

dmpoole said:
There is another way around making people redundant and putting someone else in their job.
They give the job a new title and change the job slightly.

Yep, this is common practice.