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It depends on what you consider hacking as not all 360s can be hacked, it depends on the drive. So, although so can there is still a large percentage that can't be
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It depends on what you consider hacking as not all 360s can be hacked, it depends on the drive. So, although so can there is still a large percentage that can't be
the really intelligent hackers do it to get a linux or a version of running, as the ps3 already supports linux the real hackers havent bothered as there is no challenge.
theres a great vid on youtube somewhere discussion the ease of piracy on consoles and linux, if i have time il dig it up its from a linux/microsoft conference.
theres a great vid on youtube somewhere discussion the ease of piracy on consoles and linux, if i have time il dig it up its from a linux/microsoft conference.
The padding is removed in the same way that 360, DS and Wii padding is removed so it is hugely unlikely that the rips won't work. Also, by definition, padding is redundant and can be added/injected on the fly so you never need to store the games with the padded data anyway, negating the size issue if booting from a hard drive.
That's not hacking anyway as you can't modify the existing code or change what the 360 does by running unsigned code. A minor part of the optical drive security has been breached, the 360 hasn't been hacked.
this is not true anymore.
i fully expect a PS3 "mod-chip" to appear once BRD-R become more widely available and cheaper
I heard that there is a big stumbling block with the PS3's security, with the Cell processor. If it detects that one of its cores has been compromised, it will simply shut down that core.
I have no idea if that carrys any truth at all, but it was just something a mate said to me just a few days ago.
I have no idea if that carrys any truth at all, but it was just something a mate said to me just a few days ago.
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For running of unsigned code, maybe, but for playing pirate games the PS3 is just as susceptible as the Wii and 360 where the optical drive is simply modified to read burnable media as if it was a game disc. There's nothing magical about bluray drives to prevent this from happening.
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ps2 games could be copied like normal there was zero copy protection on the disks!
ps3 i bet same could be done with a bluray writer, but now consoles are online I can see them checking, like MS do. Maybe introduce cd keys for online console games? who knows
ps3 i bet same could be done with a bluray writer, but now consoles are online I can see them checking, like MS do. Maybe introduce cd keys for online console games? who knows
I thought you could with an early dash and the king kong exploit?
I still think the only reason Sony won the console wars with their debut PSX was because of games could be easily pirated and sold ultra cheap. everyone had one when i was in primary/high school except me. and all had stacks of games because they were worth about £4 each.
Yet resellers and mothercompanies (mainly blaming EA) overcharging for their products. at the end of the day its what people can afford.
Yet resellers and mothercompanies (mainly blaming EA) overcharging for their products. at the end of the day its what people can afford.
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at the end of the day, these consoles are designed by humans and there is always someone out there smarter , so its only a mater of time i`d say for the ps3
Not sure I'd agree with your sentiments. Only the other day I've seen Tom's Games discussing very poor sales in 2007 with many big hitting PC games flopping badly. The truly triple-AAA games where the PC is the lead platform are likely to become rarer. Piracy is a factor in this.
http://www.tomsgames.com/us/site/flash_videos/second_take_the_pc_gaming_slump.html
You can get it to run linux, yes. You can also downgrade the Kernal to the one where the King Kong exploit is still possible, but it's a mod for the hard core only really.
But, you can't run programs where you can use all the 360's potential, a bit like linux on the PS3.
you keep banging on about running unsigned code.
no one cares, the masses dont flash the 360, or chip their WII, or buy a cart for the DS to actually play "homebrew". Seriously, they dont.
And you're being a tool.
I'm just differentiating between the 2, as there is a big difference.
MP3's on DS, media centre on XBox 1, potentially playing PC games with keyboard and mouse on 360/PS3?
Get a clue mate, seriously, get a clue.
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Sony made the right choice going with new media, it wont be cracked and have writeable discs at the right price for atleast 2 years. Not like the ps2 when dvd was already done and a guy at the market sold games for 2 for a fiver.
It going to take a year or so for the burners to be half decent and the media to be at a price to make it worthwhile.
MS have taken a hammering with piracy. I'm not taking any moral ground because I dont care, but all the high Gamerscores on this forum are from people with modded consoles. It's easy to spot, so i'm sure it's just as easy to MS to access how much money this has cost them.
Just looking at a gamerscore website you can see the masses of people who have modded the console.
I think what they would have lost by putting games on high def disc and the cost of the drive they would easily have made up in game sales.
People always bang on about MS's high games to console attach rate, imagine how high that would have been if it had say a blu ray player/disc combination.
I must admit I didnt even know the wii had been done until I saw all the disc's in peoples pidgeon holes at work. Hundreds of the things floating about being traded.
It going to take a year or so for the burners to be half decent and the media to be at a price to make it worthwhile.
MS have taken a hammering with piracy. I'm not taking any moral ground because I dont care, but all the high Gamerscores on this forum are from people with modded consoles. It's easy to spot, so i'm sure it's just as easy to MS to access how much money this has cost them.
Just looking at a gamerscore website you can see the masses of people who have modded the console.
I think what they would have lost by putting games on high def disc and the cost of the drive they would easily have made up in game sales.
People always bang on about MS's high games to console attach rate, imagine how high that would have been if it had say a blu ray player/disc combination.
I must admit I didnt even know the wii had been done until I saw all the disc's in peoples pidgeon holes at work. Hundreds of the things floating about being traded.
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i havent seen a drive that cant be modded, some require a passkey but havent found one which cant be done
I would disagree with this. In general they wouldn't have bought the game in the first place, the only reason they play it is because they got it for free. If they had to pay then they wouldn't even consider buying half the games they 'have'
Personally, i'd say it's more to do with the new found fascination for making games 'future proof' so only bleeding edge systems can even run them.
Considering the masses of the PC gaming market aren't all running clocked C2D with 4GB of RAM backed up by an 8800GTX, it's hardly surprising people aren't buying the games when they only run on that sort of hardware.