Teen Suicides

Can't blame them, i've got a brilliant life in theory but sometimes I feel like topping myself, like it'd just be easier because I can't be bothered to live. I feel like i'm in a constant struggle, i'm always tired, i've been falling asleep at work lately because I can't sleep at night too well (happens every few weeks, some worse than others). It's one of the reasons I drink so much, i can enjoy myself if i'm a bit drunk, I can't relax without my freinds or if i'm pressured and alcohol helps me relax.

I guess doing so many drugs when I was younger is probably responsible for it, sometimes I feel i'm going out of my mind, like it'd be a good idea to get checked out, then again, I don't agree with phsycology, you can't define normal.
Don't get me wrong, sometimes I love my life, i dunno, i think i might have some kind of minor chemical inbalance or something though.
Never mind, I aint topping myself, too many people depend on me and when life has thrown me a bone i'd be ungrateful to back out.
 
Its suicide...it was upto them tbh, cant really blame someone else on someone committing suicide imho.

Everyone has a way of dealing with their problems in life and this is one (and worst) ways of dealing with them sadly :(
 
I heard about this on Sky News the other day.

I think it's pretty stupid to give it such exposed media attention. It will simply result in more people reading about it on the internet which might very well make the situation worse. :(
 
Stev said:
sorry to be mean, but if a 17 year old cant survive without her ass bouncing off the wall, whats she going to be like when she gets real responsibility or hell, even a kid? the poor little tyke would have the worst start ever. Depression as a teenager is attention seeking, you have an entire life to live, and you wanna end it so early? good riddence, you dont deserve the gift youve been given.
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What sort of mental state do you think someone must be in to commit suicide?

What sort of logic do you think goes through their brain?

No logic at all?

Exactly - You can not even fathom what it must be like to be of such a mindset and niether can I. Anybody who can see logic in such an act is in clear need of support and help.
 
does anybody think it is because of the new culture? i mean kids just want to have fun, and to them clubs are fun: you can hang out with mates, meet girls. but then the pressure comes on to take drugs, alcohol, have sex and many more disturbing things which will emotionally strees them. then we have a culture when your "an ugly cow" if you have nothing but an ounce of weight on you, and you get bullied. the internet also contributes with sites like beeob, with strangers asking to meet up with you and you feel under pressure to go. theres too much pressure in society now and kids just can't go out and play in the streets like they used to, new technology and more crime and violance are keeping kids indoors. it's just my opinion and i don't go out to clubs, go on beebo, (i'm fat and proud of it), and i stay indoors a lot. but i have not experienced any sort of pressure to do any of the things mentioned and i don't inted to.

i find it very sad that someone would feel so bad to comit suicide, especially kids.
 
There are some very narrow minded views in this thread! :eek:

Emo culture is nothing more than an image, a style that teenagers congregate under, much like grungers, goths, chavs ad infinitum.

People who commit suicide are at best unpredictable, and often in a dark place, but I've enough experience to say that it is not an easy route, an easy choice, the cowards way out. Those that think that, well, you are the ones that need to get a bit more clued up, mental health is not as black and white as that.

Purely because the press reports a 17 year old girl as having a supposedly good life etc does not mean that she doesn't have the right to end her life. Granted it's tragic and horrifying, particularly for those close to her, but who the hell are some of you guys to be basically saying how dare she take her own life.

It's not as if she's living in a warzone? So what? Does that make her emotions, thoughts and feelings any less worthy. It's all relative.
 
Alex UK said:
You really, really need to grow up. Seriously, you obviously have no idea why people become depressed. A lot of the time it's not their choice, they're not doing it to 'seek attention', it's a very serious problem. For you to say that people who commit suicide due to depression don't deserve to live, is quite frankly, frightening.
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+1 But unfortunately it is typical of the sort of proudly ignorant and narrow minded attitude that OcUK seems full of these days.
 
Its sad though that suicide has become a cultureally accepted "way out". Look at countries that havn't had western influence, there suicide rates are a lot lower, and depression rates are lower too.

If its all unavoidable inbuilt biological problems, how can culture affect it so much.

Although i've gone through a stage of depression in my life myself, it makes me think even more so that people should just "snap out of it" as i did. Ofcourse, thats the difference between minor depression and clinical depression.

Stateing that somebodys views are "narrow minded" without actually looking at both sides of the discussion, is in my eyes thats narrowminded too.
but I've enough experience to say that it is not an easy route, an easy choice, the cowards way out
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Sorry ? You've had experience in commiting suicide ? Congratulations on writing from beyond the grave :s Id agree its not nessesarily the easy way out though, often it is easier the facing the problems in life, but not always.

One thing i will say though, suicide is normally the most selfish act you can do, benefits nobody and rips aparts so many lives, that thought alone would stop me ever trying.
 
I wonder how you manage to stumble upon one of these forums, id love to see what goes on in these places, how can someone get it into their heads that its right to do such a thing.

Beyond humanity i think.

Anyone know where to find these forums, i really want to know whats going on in these forums.
 
I don't think its just the chatroom thing though, it's the whole british teenage society thing at the moment. Here in my home city in N.ireland there was a spate of 29 suicide attempts over the space of 6 weeks last summer - all under 21. About 12 actually died. (in a city of 100,000)

I just get the impression the teens these days have very little fun anymore, that coupled with nothing to do, drink and drugs and obviously bullying and stress from money, work and school adds up to not a very fun life.

I really can't believe how much pressure the youth is under these days, with little or no help from friends or family.
 
When i was 19 (nearly 3 years ago) my girlfriend killed herself, she had just got into a job she loved and moved into her own flat, she was unhappy with life though and had attempted it before, she said she was over that but now i am sure that once you get suicide into your mind it doesn't just go away without treatment, it is the single lowest point of my life and something i will never forget,

She would phone me up threatening all the time and i would walk to her flat (5 miles away) and she would be fine and go to sleep, on the night she died i presumed she was crying wolf and just went to sleep, the next day one of her workmates came into my work asking where she was, that is a moment i will never forget,

I think i could now see the signs and make a better attempt at fixing it for her, if only i knew then what i know now i wouldnt think about it every day
 
The thing is, life is utter pap for a great many people, or indeed all of us at one point or another. Suicide is an obvious step take to stop the pain, and if your are not religious there are no direct impacts on oneself, only indirect impact on ones family and freinds, But then, not everyone has a family and friends.

Suicide can be far too easy. For me the challenge of living excites me, the perseereance, not giving into to problems. But if I didn't have a family whe loved me (in in their indirect way), I wouldn't be posting this now.

I think this points to larger problems with soceity. For too many people life is just an existence, a rat-race. Educate to work to earn money, to live and breed and spawn your own kind in a never ending meaningless circle. You try your hardest to succeed while the scum of society take over and multiply taking all resources under the guises of "benefits". Yes, suicide i s luxury, most of us can't afford. I lovelife and earth and nature, my soul belongs to nature and I worship mountains and "the great outdorrs" Without mountains I would be dead. Their omniprescence dwarfs me, their beauty intrigues me and fills me with wonder.

If we are to abade suicide mankind needs to change for the better. Society kills from within.
 
DailyGeek said:
There are some very narrow minded views in this thread! :eek:

Emo culture is nothing more than an image, a style that teenagers congregate under, much like grungers, goths, chavs ad infinitum.

People who commit suicide are at best unpredictable, and often in a dark place, but I've enough experience to say that it is not an easy route, an easy choice, the cowards way out. Those that think that, well, you are the ones that need to get a bit more clued up, mental health is not as black and white as that.

Purely because the press reports a 17 year old girl as having a supposedly good life etc does not mean that she doesn't have the right to end her life. Granted it's tragic and horrifying, particularly for those close to her, but who the hell are some of you guys to be basically saying how dare she take her own life.

It's not as if she's living in a warzone? So what? Does that make her emotions, thoughts and feelings any less worthy. It's all relative.
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I agree with the bulk of that, e.g. 'emo' although can be associated with depression and suicide isn't exclusive by any streach of the imagination.

What I don't agree with is this whole 'right to commit suicide thing'. IMO, there should never be a reason to commit suicide for emotional reasons, there is always another way, you just need the foresight to see that.

This thread reminded me of emo-corner and there are some very disturbed young individuals there who really highlight this issue.

Burnsy
 
Burnsy2023 said:
I agree with the bulk of that, e.g. 'emo' although can be associated with depression and suicide isn't exclusive by any streach of the imagination.

What I don't agree with is this whole 'right to commit suicide thing'. IMO, there should never be a reason to commit suicide for emotional reasons, there is always another way, you just need the foresight to see that.

This thread reminded me of emo-corner and there are some very disturbed young individuals there who really highlight this issue.

Burnsy
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Indeed, I think I maybe phrased that poorly. Rather than saying it is her right, I mean to say that who here has the right to say whether it was just or not. Granted, it is a tragic waste of a life, but some of the people here saying 'good riddance' for example are, imo, more tragic.

And as for being quoted on me saying I have some experience, I've worked with a lot of suicidal people over the past few years, including people in the process of taking their life.
 
DailyGeek said:
Indeed, I think I maybe phrased that poorly. Rather than saying it is her right, I mean to say that who here has the right to say whether it was just or not. Granted, it is a tragic waste of a life, but some of the people here saying 'good riddance' for example are, imo, more tragic.
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^^ That is agreed :)

Burnsy
 
DavidB said:
Stateing that somebodys views are "narrow minded" without actually looking at both sides of the discussion, is in my eyes thats narrowminded too.

Sorry ? You've had experience in commiting suicide ? Congratulations on writing from beyond the grave :s Id agree its not nessesarily the easy way out though, often it is easier the facing the problems in life, but not always.
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I've looked at both sides of the discussion? :confused:
 
Suicide is just something I don't think I'll ever understand. It seems to have become the only way out for some people in western culture and I just can't see why.

I've had times where life has felt pointless and not worth living but to be honest, I think most people have. Even when these times have felt like they're never going to end, I've never once thought about suicide.

For me, the challenges of life are what make it worth living, good or bad. 99% of times, there is always something you can do to turn your life around, it's your life remember.
 
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