who states that THE DEFENDANT

Housey · 26 Jan 2008 at 13:40

Tim said:
What was the last offence for? can't remember.

Think he meant PMK.

Ah, OK, my mistake, sorry Persil.

dirtydog · 26 Jan 2008 at 13:40

At the end of the day, doing 60 in a residential 30 area is naughty and you do deserve to be punished for that matey. Regardless of what day it was.

PMKeates · 26 Jan 2008 at 13:40

housemaster said:
Ah, OK, my mistake, sorry Persil.

And of course that's okay, 'cause PMK's a smarmy "type"

RoboCod · 26 Jan 2008 at 13:41

Whilst we're here, how much will you be selling your BMW to help fund your fine/ban?

Snaggle · 26 Jan 2008 at 13:42

PMKeates said:
And of course that's okay, 'cause PMK's a smarmy "type"

You said it

PMKeates · 26 Jan 2008 at 13:43

Captain Planet said:
Whilst we're here, how much will you be selling your BMW to help fund your fine/ban?

I haven't decided what to do with my car, actually. I am probably going to give it to a friend of mine to keep it on the road

dirtydog said:
At the end of the day, doing 60 in a residential 30 area is naughty and you do deserve to be punished for that matey. Regardless of what day it was.

Sure, I know the day doesn't make a difference - I was just pointing out that the rush hour thing was irrelevant. I don't need it to sound any worse than it does already!

dirtydog · 26 Jan 2008 at 13:44

PMKeates said:
Sure, I know - I was just pointing out that the rush hour thing was irrelevant. I don't need it to sound any worse than it does already!

Fair enough - I don't think you should be punished any more than you need to be because none of us are whiter than white

atpbx · 26 Jan 2008 at 13:45

If the car doesnt have video evidence then you stand a chance of getting off.

Considerable excess of 60 miles an hour would mean you were driving like a mad man which i dont really believe was the case.
If you were going that fast they would have pulled you straight away and done you on the spot.

Cyanide · 26 Jan 2008 at 13:50

atpbx said:
If the car doesnt have video evidence then you stand a chance of getting off.

afaik it depends on how many officers were in the car. 1 and there's a chance but if there were 2 then that's almost as good as video evidence as far as a court's concerned.

jamief · 26 Jan 2008 at 13:56

Accept that you were seriously in the wrong, plead guilty, and learn from your mistakes. I cannot abide by people who do wrong and then try and get out of it.

Enfield · 26 Jan 2008 at 14:01

You sound like a right see you next Tuesday. I hope you lose your licence.

BigglesPiP · 26 Jan 2008 at 14:17

Serves you right for driving like a prat.

Plead guilty is the best option.

PMKeates · 26 Jan 2008 at 14:19

BigglesPiP said:
Serves you right for driving like a prat.

Plead guilty is the best option.

There's not a lot of chance I'll go "not guilty" because of a) the initial cost b) the potential cost if the defence fails c) the hassle.

Would you turn up, or just send a statement? Is turning up, or not, likely to make much of a difference?

BigglesPiP · 26 Jan 2008 at 14:19

Turn up and look remorseful, talk proper and wear a suit.

Mad old tory · 26 Jan 2008 at 14:20

Take it on the chin and learn from it, anybody got a link to the original thread? Can't remember what actually happened.

divine` · 26 Jan 2008 at 14:20

Turning up usually yields a lighter sentence does it not?

RoboCod · 26 Jan 2008 at 14:23

You could sell your car to me instead

jamief · 26 Jan 2008 at 14:24

divine` said:
Turning up usually yields a lighter sentence does it not?

No. Pleading guilty via post does.

jamoor · 26 Jan 2008 at 14:24

housemaster said:
Over 60mph through an estate is simply preposterous, you will get banned if the evidence stands up and so you should, I did, and think long and hard about it. You have been a tool, be a man, do something right and take responsbility for your actions and take the punishment. You asked for those with experience of this, well there you go, own your actions and peoples respect will grow for you, its time to be a grown up!

Indeed, crazy, what on earth were you doing to the other driver?

Lopéz · 26 Jan 2008 at 14:25

Not going to court generally indicates to the magistrates that you don't really give a flying one and from what I have seen results in stiffer penalties.

Plead guilty in advance, go to court, then explain yourself as best you can. Show remorse, and understanding. You may get off with a lighter punishment than it seems you deserve.