I haven't been to Southsea, so unless you fill in the gaps I've asked you about I can't make a judgement on the situation. I certainly wouldn't turn down a £400pw job with free training...(which is the going rate locally)
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I haven't been to Southsea, so unless you fill in the gaps I've asked you about I can't make a judgement on the situation. I certainly wouldn't turn down a £400pw job with free training...(which is the going rate locally)
I was hoping their website can give an insight on the number of vacancies and salary but it's abit limited, have to request for packs.
Just a few miles North of Southsea is Hilsea/Cosham; where the local bus deport is - just a mile north of that deport is a local Job Centre; my part time job allows me to travel up and down that area at various times of the days and more often than not, I see people in there "job seeking" before getting their benefits/allowance whilst the bus deport has a big billboard recruiting people.
I just find it sadden.
Anyway, I'm just using this one from my local as an example to show, not all immigrants come over are for benefit; they are often more willing to work for a living than the natives.
Yes the NHS is having to cater for 1/4 of immigrant's pregnancy but I can't help but wonder, is that a subtle spin figure, put out to stir the blame on immigrants after recent news that many hospital can't handle child births within standards?
That's my personal thoughts but I might not be well informed enough to make such an opinion firmly.
Good lord, is that actually true? NHS is always going to suffer, too much pressure on an inefficient and poorly planned service. Hopefully one day a government can sort it out from the ground up - or maybe not.
Unless you stood there all day, there's nothing to suggest they didn't also apply for jobs...as I said, £400pw job > benefits by a long shot. The advisors are watching people closely these days, but some are lax.
The NHS was never a good idea, period. Thats my take on it. They're generally not allowed to turn people away, hence the statistics showing them unable to cope. Obviously there are other factors - a behemoth like this being poorly run and simply unwieldy, etc.
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I think quite a few of the people here are making a huge deal out of this. Anyone that can rationally think about the short-term future would have known that the babies born to foreign mothers would go up after the EU enlargement. There are already quite a few French,Greeks,Italians(already EU members) living in the UK and having kids born here so it doesnt really need such a drastic push from eastern Europe and the rest of the world in order for the numbers to get significant. Besides,unless for some Romanians, eastern Europeans are pretty messed up in terms of birth rates themselves. And here is the irony - people end up claiming that they are here to "take our jobs", yet, also to "breed like rabbits" which are two conflicting things. If anything, working like mad to save as much as possible would make one dread the thought of having lots of kids.
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What a helpful post
Yes its true that a lot of immigrants come here and sponge off our bennefits etc, but its just like the council estate bennefit scum do, its the system thats broken.
we do need a better immigration system really though, like someone said, maybes we should look at australia..
Eastern Europeans etc are pretty hard workers, they want to work and earn, wont kick up a fuss or moan and whinge like general lazy clowns who think they are above minimum wage and would rather sit at home claiming bennefits. They can be seen all over the place in agriculture cos they dont mind getting dirty and working hard, at the end of the day the pay is pretty damn good in their eyes and its the same work theyd have to do at home.
we do need a better immigration system really though, like someone said, maybes we should look at australia..
Eastern Europeans etc are pretty hard workers, they want to work and earn, wont kick up a fuss or moan and whinge like general lazy clowns who think they are above minimum wage and would rather sit at home claiming bennefits. They can be seen all over the place in agriculture cos they dont mind getting dirty and working hard, at the end of the day the pay is pretty damn good in their eyes and its the same work theyd have to do at home.
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I think I have a possible solution that wouldn't involve doctors and nurses refusing to treat people (would anyone really want a system like that?!?!). All we have to do is make it so any country joining Europe must agree to pay the full medical expenses incurred by other countries when treating their citizens. If they don't agree they can't join.
Obviously a lot of people from non European countries would still come here for the health care, but maybe the above measure would provide enough money to fund the services we need.
Obviously a lot of people from non European countries would still come here for the health care, but maybe the above measure would provide enough money to fund the services we need.
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I thought it was a valid point. I took it to mean that it doesn't matter who is having the babies, there are already too many people! Who cares if 100% of babies born in the UK are to non-UK citizens, we're all human and there are too many, so it makes no difference.
that's his style.
If they're paying tax/NI or they have been, or their partner is then I don't see the problem. If they're funding the system they're using then this isn't an issue with immigration. I would imagine that at least some of the time they're not but the BBC site doesn't mention that statistic - probably largely due to it potentially taking the edge off their shocking story.
The only thing that annoys me to see is "Increased immigration has increased crime rates" (can't remember the paper that was on - probably the sun) and the thought of some people coming here for a better life and not paying taxes gets on my nerves, but then the same can be said for people who were born here.
on what basis?
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Most of the calls are now doubled in length because translators are needed, and it turns in to a 3 way call.
Oh, and 1 in 4 babies.. come on, that's absurd!
Oh, and 1 in 4 babies.. come on, that's absurd!
That it may well be - but think of the costs saved in the long run.LOL extreme to say the least.
All you'd need is a deep bucket to drown the rat in, and pass the baby back to the mother so she can dispose of the baby at her own expense.
What a strange post.
Are you a) insinuating that HangTime should garner himself a revolutionary force and depose the current system of government in a military coup?
Or are you suggesting that b) HangTime get his ass in gear, and starts procreating with a few British women to vastly increase the native birth rate? Forgive me for saying this HangTime, but I think he'd have a problem with that. He'd need to rest.
On a side note, I can't find it at the moment perhaps someone else can - Are babies born in this country to a foreign national entitled to British Citizenship? I know the Americans stopped this scam (ok some were legitimately given it) a while back - whats the status in our country?
Right back at you for that little "nugget of wisdom".
No doubt my post would've gone down better if it was a "send them back!" post, but I was actually replying to the guys on page one (just couldn't be bothered quoting) saying it was normal a few years back to have 2-3 kids, but that Europe and Britain seem to be plateauing at 1 kid per family and expressing their dismay at this situation.
I believe that a negative growth rate is to the benefit of everyone in the long-run since the total human population has increased by about 4-4.5 billion since 1850, and I believe Europe and Britain are doing ourselves a favour by altering this trend. Therefore my response is suddenly not spam, is it.
So, in closing, get off your high horse. You too Sic, as I don't even know who you are.
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You too Sic, as I don't even know who you are.
Oh, you might not remember me, but I certainly remember you so my disdain at anything you post still stands and what's more, I can rationalise it instead of posting a little picture to show my thoughts
Oh noes someone on the internet doesn't like me, whatever shall I do?
Back to the topic at hand please?
Edit: Hahaha, a quick search reveals why you have some "vendetta" against me. All I can say is get over it and grow the hell up! Oh boy what a quality thread that was, I'll remember you for that too now.
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