Toshiba calling it quits on HD-DVD

I doubt they will tbh as it will be seen as siding with sony. I think they'll push downloadable content more.

Like putting Windows on Sony laptops?
It will be a "Blu-Ray drive" not a "Sony Blu-Ray drive", I'd hazard the vast majority of the population don't know BR is Sony's own tech.
 
Like putting Windows on Sony laptops?
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Not really because Sony dont do operating systems - unless Sony want to sell a tiny proportion of what they do sell and install linux instead they dont have a choice

I do agree with you though - its unlikely most people know that Sony are a major player in BR (not sure if they own all the rights, surely they have to be owned by the BDA or whoever?)

That partnership will be less crucial once HD-DVD is out of the picture, then they can tell Disney to like it or lump it and start pressing 'Jenny boffs the Soccer Team 6' to their heart's content.
Disney will have to toe the line, because it's either that or lose out on the HD market entirely.

Sorry very unlikely that would ever happen - successful partnerships arent run like this at all. Who knows when Disney could make a crucial choice for or against Sony in the future.

Disney are such a huge corporation - no one would anger them un-necessarily

Not only that but there are more fabrication plants around now, so its pretty pointless anyway
 
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Correct, they want downloadable content to win.

Thats not a format thats a service and its no different to satellite or cable in what it offers, apart from making it available as "on demand" service...

Wholesalers, retailers all need a physical format and if you think CDs, BDs or DVDs are going to vanish from stores anytime soon because of downloads your dreaming.
Proof of this is in the Compact Disc or DVD which last time i looked are still widely available and weve had various distrubution or download services for movies and music for several years.
Downloads and physical media will co-exist for a long long time why you keep thinking Microsoft or indeed Sony or anyone else would one day just want downloads which cuts out the whole retail sector just isnt going to happen sunshine.

If anything the demise of HD-DVD proves BD is now going to become the optical solution for not only HD video playback and optical recording but more than likely replace DVD-R / DVD-RW for PCs and quite possibly it could be included in the next Microsoft console as a disc medium.

Sony are going to love the royalties for sure, this is multi billion dollar win for Sony.
 
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Sony don't really make the hardware in the laptops though.

Doesn't matter to the person on the street though does it, it's a Sony laptop.
They're not called "Sony, Samsung, nVidia and Intel laptops" ;).

A lot of people would say Microsoft don't really make the software in windows too ;)
 
I doubt they will tbh as it will be seen as siding with Sony. I think they'll push downloadable content more.

Correct, they want downloadable content to win.

How have i the wrong end of the stick? Your putting forward the notion that Microsoft want to monopolise the market with some form of digital distrubution. Also i think youve mentioned this "download is the future" scanario before in other threads.

Learn to realise its only another way of making money and sure its going to become more and more popular but its never going to replace a physical format or media. Also Microsoft have said when they launched the HD-DVD drive if demand in the market required a BD addon then they would consider making one. Its nothing to do with picking sides or because Sony are the main creator of BD that they wouldnt support it. If anything the reason the HD-DVD drive appeared was probably an agreement between Toshiba and Microsoft creating a business solution to help fight PS3 having Blu Ray that was benificial to both parties. It offered the console Hi Def movies at an affordable price identifying one of the PS3s strengths and for Toshiba it created a cheap solution for a worldwide available and multi million selling platform.

Your welcome to explain your comments or how im confused with what you seem to be implying from your quotes.
 
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I bought a combo drive for my pc, if HD dvd is giving up it just means lots of cheap films for me.
Seriously though, it's a shame as HD dvd seemed to be a better format for the consumer.
 
I'm sure by Christmas this year, Microsoft will have a Blu-ray drive add-on for the 360.

Wouldn't waste my money, if it's not going to play games then I may as well not bother, plus the add ons look pap compared to an all in one machine. Only way I'd buy one for the 360 is if it was going to be for games as well.
 
Thats not a format thats a service and its no different to satellite or cable in what it offers, apart from making it available as "on demand" service...

Wholesalers, retailers all need a physical format and if you think CDs, BDs or DVDs are going to vanish from stores anytime soon because of downloads your dreaming.
Proof of this is in the Compact Disc or DVD which last time i looked are still widely available and weve had various distrubution or download services for movies and music for several years.
Downloads and physical media will co-exist for a long long time why you keep thinking Microsoft or indeed Sony or anyone else would one day just want downloads which cuts out the whole retail sector just isnt going to happen sunshine.

If anything the demise of HD-DVD proves BD is now going to become the optical solution for not only HD video playback and optical recording but more than likely replace DVD-R / DVD-RW for PCs and quite possibly it could be included in the next Microsoft console as a disc medium.

Sony are going to love the royalties for sure, this is multi billion dollar win for Sony.

I comepletely agree. I don't see the physical medium going anywhere soon, although I do think that eventually it will be replaced by Digital Distribution but that's a looooong way off IMO.

What I was referring to, and possibly Kreeeee too wasn't that MS were trying to dominate with Digital Distribution. Rather they were causing disruption in the HD-DVD/BD war to prolongue the outcome, thus giving them space to flex their muscle and promote Digital Distribution content as an alternative and increase thier market.

I'm glad you call it BD and not BR, it seems that we are the only ones who get it right ;)
 
The Live Market Place content isnt really a competitor to either HD optical format. Firstly its a rental system and not an ownership facility like purchasing outright is.

Its also far too slow at this early stage, the quality although decent isnt as good to the proper discs both in audio and video and the range of films is very limited. Youd be better joining a service like "i love film" or other rental/postal company and such a service is more competition to digital downloads of movies than actual BD or HD-DVD sales is.

The HD-DVD drive was a good idea for both parties but Microsoft never fully pushed HD-DVD even with regards the release of Vista or their Media Centre software. They seemd to want to sit back and wait yet at the same time make some money out of it from an inexpensive peripheral. Cautious but supportive at the same time.

The biggest benifit of digital downloads is in demos or games were your in a hurry to get it and its an actual free download or purchase, not a movie or tv rental.
GT5p id reckon is going to be the most popular online purchased download and considering many people in the UK purchased the Jap release since mid December and it still not available in the UK yet or untill April its not hard to see why. Situations like this is imo were such a service is a lot better than waiting or importing physical media.
 
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I comepletely agree. I don't see the physical medium going anywhere soon, although I do think that eventually it will be replaced by Digital Distribution but that's a looooong way off IMO.

What I was referring to, and possibly Kreeeee too wasn't that MS were trying to dominate with Digital Distribution. Rather they were causing disruption in the HD-DVD/BD war to prolongue the outcome, thus giving them space to flex their muscle and promote Digital Distribution content as an alternative and increase thier market.

I'm glad you call it BD and not BR, it seems that we are the only ones who get it right ;)

This is kind of what I was getting at, but I fail to be coherent at 2 AM >_<

MS won't win with digital distribution but just like the XBox project they are trying to get their foot in the door to use as a platform to launch future projects.
 
I was in Tesco's the other day and someone picked up a HD-DVD player box and put it into their shopping trolley.

I almost felt like telling him he was wasting £200....but i didnt..:)
 
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