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Yep, Sony can really corner the market if they play their cards right!
Toshiba calling it quits on HD-DVD
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But the main bonus of the Blu-Ray drive in the PS3 thus far has been the fact that it plays DVD's. The benefits for games have hardly been used.
A large number of people have purchased the PS3 as it is a cheap Blu-Ray player.
It would put the 360 on a par with the PS3, as a games machine that plays Blu-Ray movies. Although to this point my PS3 has really been a Blu-Ray player that also plays games..
It annoys the hell out of me. I should be able to put a game into a console and play immediately, none of this installing nonsense. It actually made me mad waiting for The Club to start, I'd be fuming at a 20minute install before playing DMC4.
No way Sony was ever going to fail - even if the PS3 did bomb
too many fingers in too many pies to fail completely
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strange, because it didnt bother me waiting for the club to install. and again, it only does it once. i did note it took unusually long to install, even by my ps3's standards which has a faster harddrive than anything you can fit inside the ps3, but after that? theres no slowness that bothers me in the slightest.
people just get impatient. do something else. make a drink. surf the forums and read about people complain about install times (
). how long to people spending waiting for buses, waiting in queues, stuck in traffic....this is a one-time thing that takes minutes. relax a little
people just get impatient. do something else. make a drink. surf the forums and read about people complain about install times (
). how long to people spending waiting for buses, waiting in queues, stuck in traffic....this is a one-time thing that takes minutes. relax a littleThe Club still has annoyingly long loading times after that too though.
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on my console, it takes 30 seconds to get the the "press > to begin" title page, 10 second to get the the main menu, and 35 seconds from pressing X on tournament to the 'fight' screen and then your in.
i dont know how fast it is on a regular ps3, but it really isnt all that bad!
Is yours not a regular PS3 then?
I have to admit the load times are a little slow on the PS3, although it's not something I'm overly concerned about. I remember the good old days when you would wait ten minutes for a game to install from cassette only for it to crash at the end so you have rewind and repeat
waiting ten seconds for burnout to load or even waiting twenty minutes for the initial install is nothing by comparison - tsch... the youth of today don't know they are born!Is yours not a regular PS3 then?
I have to admit the load times are a little slow on the PS3, although it's not something I'm overly concerned about. I remember the good old days when you would wait ten minutes for a game to install from cassette only for it to crash at the end so you have rewind and repeat
It's annoying because I didn't have to wait that long in the last generation, or even on the other consoles this generation. The PS3 is supposed to be a leap forward, not a 20 year throw back to loading/install times.
See this old but interesting report
Sixty years after its founding in the ashes of postwar Tokyo, the company that gave us the transistor radio and the Walkman portable music player is deeply wounded. Only once in the past five years has Sony's all-important electronics division posted a profit; during that same period, the company's share price has fallen by nearly half. Its hit products of the '90s – Handycams, WEGA TVs, VAIO computers – were succeeded by stillborn wonders like the AirBoard, a $1,000 videoscreen that could be carried around like a laptop, and the Net MD Walkman, a too-little-too-late attempt to challenge Apple's iPod. Neither this latter-day Walkman nor Sony Connect, the online music store The New York Times once called "Sony Disconnect," would have anything to do with MP3 files – only Sony's cumbersome and proprietary Atrac3 format would do. Now, having ceded to Apple the portable-music-player market, Sony desperately needs to stay on top in videogames. It's not just that Sony needs a win; PS3 is critical to its entire strategy.
You should also look into how much Sony have borrowed in the past few years. How much it has lost with massive restructuring but also PS3/ Blu Ray development and how its sharholders have been effected.
"Yet Sony has to face Microsoft not just in videogames but across the entire panoply of home electronics, which Microsoft is determined to control through software. And Sony has to do this with cash reserves of $6 billion – compared to Microsoft's $38 billion hoard – while losing hundreds of dollars in manufacturing costs alone for every PS3 sold. Eventually, Sony's costs will come down. But in the meantime, Goldman Sachs projects, Sony will lose nearly $2 billion on the PS3 by the end of this fiscal year in March"
Still if the worst came to the worst i think the brand would have survived but its possible a buy-out or partial take-over could have been on the table if Blu ray became a dead duck.
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Too right, those dammed cassette games crashing and then typing a 3 a4 page of "poke" code to get access to unlimted cheats on cetain games! Those were the hardcore days, not all this plug and play on a HDTV days~!
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Is yours not a regular PS3 then?
I have to admit the load times are a little slow on the PS3, although it's not something I'm overly concerned about. I remember the good old days when you would wait ten minutes for a game to install from cassette only for it to crash at the end so you have rewind and repeat
only in the sense that my main drive is a full fat 7200rpm 3.5" drive, which is can be a good deal faster than the 2.5" jobbies depending on the task
only in the sense that my main drive is a full fat 7200rpm 3.5" drive, which is can be a good deal faster than the 2.5" jobbies depending on the task
ah I see. Thought it caused problems when you plug in a 7200rpm drive to the PS3.
Just out of interest, I have been thinking about using a full size HDD for my PS3 too. Do you use a caddy to hold it and if so how do you connect it to the PS3 - got any pics?
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At the very least we can start to look forward to the end of ridiculous posts such as these:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=13114461&postcount=39
I think that guy needs a girlfriend.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=13114461&postcount=39
Idiot said:
I think that guy needs a girlfriend.
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one of these:
plus one of these:
(nexstar 3.5" sata caddy)
equals the ability to use any capacity 3.5" drive available. even 1tb, if you wish. good job too, because ive already used this much space:
and infact is down to 176gb now i have The Club installed. 56gb.....of nothing but games.
thought it might have been one of those contraptions. It just extends the SATA connection to actually sit on the drive bay cover doesn't it?
I have a 160Gb in mine and I recently went down to 15Gb left, so I had to delete a load of movies and demos etc to make more room. I really want more space for when PlayTV comes out although there may well be 500Gb 2.5" drives out by then so I may just hang on a while longer yet.
Nice wallpaper btw, don't think my misses would approve if I had it though
Well, even though it was inevitable, I'm still a little sad at the demise of HD-DVD, not for any 'war' reasons, just simply I enjoyed the BOGOF and 3 for 2 offers they seemed to battle each other with,
I saw this on another forum, and while I don't agree with the sentinment, it did make me chuckle,
I saw this on another forum, and while I don't agree with the sentinment, it did make me chuckle,
I'm still a bit sad at the demise of HD-DVD, I never did get the almost religious effort by consumers to treat it as a war, it seems some people are almost jumping up and down in glee in an "I backed the right horse" I told you so sort of way.
At least once the dust settles the kiss ass fanboys can stop the "But Blu-ray is twice as powerful as HD-DVD" viewpoint and get back to the usual "The PS3 is twice as powerful as the 360"
Roll on Sony's next great invention, I hear there's a DS4 controller with inbuilt credit card swiper to allow you to purchase your virtual trainers for HOME that much quicker, and from firmware 2.5 onwards the PS3 will only connect to the new DS4 which are £100 and come with a new propriatery single use battery dubbed the 'battery stick' at £10 a pop, but I suspect that the OMGI fanbase will still rally around it at ILUVDS4.com.