Lethal injection doesn't cause pain.
Lethal injection in Florida and most states of America involves a three-step process: sodium pentothal to stop the pain, pancuronium bromide to paralyse, and potassium chloride to trigger a fatal heart seizure.
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Lethal injection doesn't cause pain.
Lethal injection in Florida and most states of America involves a three-step process: sodium pentothal to stop the pain, pancuronium bromide to paralyse, and potassium chloride to trigger a fatal heart seizure.
not really, a surprisingly large amount of people fail to commit suicide by shooting themselves in the head, as a person is quite capable of living with much of the brain missing, and even if you destroy the medulla oblongata, but the person is still a live they could live for about a minute till oxygen deprivation killed the rest of the brain.
State executions are all about being sure, it is done on the first go.
Exactly my view.
I've been touting the same view on here when the death penalty has raised it's head.
This person should be removed from society in the most permanent way possible. Also his life should not be subsidised by the tax payer for decades to come.
There is something fundamentally wrong with someone who can do something like this and they should be rubbed out of society permanently.
Go look for the thread in SC, or it may be in here, there was a panorama/horizon on it, the lethal injection used causes considerable pain for some time before death, it is described as being set on fire while being unable to move, as the anaesthetic runs out before the injection takes effect.
That's not how I understood it. There was a story quite recently (months/weeks not days) about how someone was saying it is like being injected with fire.
There really isn't a humane way to kill someone, some ways are "more" humane but you know when you are going to die and your body feels it, it will be extremely painfull no matter how you do it,
In this case though the killer should feel the worst pain imaginable, people are talking about being humane, **** that, this guy deserves everything he gets, how can people even be trying to justify his actions?
Having not had a lethal injection, I couldn't possibly comment. I just googled.
It's not /meant/ to cause unnecessary pain and suffering, but that's a strange one seeing as it's ultimately going to kill the person in a matter of minutes, which I imagine invokes a fair amount of pain and suffering!
It's not /meant/ to cause unnecessary pain and suffering, but that's a strange one seeing as it's ultimately going to kill the person in a matter of minutes, which I imagine invokes a fair amount of pain and suffering!
I think it's impossible to make that kind of judgment now. IMO you have to give people a chance to come to terms with the crimes they have committed. Who knows, in 30 years time he might be a completely different person.
I'm am so glad, for my children's sake, that little or none of you can enforce your sick and twisted ideas about punishment.
Everyone deserves another chance.Yeah, what he did was sick and twisted, and punishment is due - but killing him is nothing but counter-murder. And is not justifiable. If you want justice, make him live with his mistakes, remind him of the evil he has done. Not hide the problem under the carpet, so to speak. It's that kind of attitude that allows this kind of evil to prevail in the world. "Kill him! Just make him go away!" Instead of dealing with the problem, trying to find out why he did it, trying to prevent these sorts of things happening and trying to help those who have done something so very wrong (and are clearly in need of some sort of help) - a lot of you are happy just to make him disappear and carry on as normal.
Everyone deserves another chance.Yeah, what he did was sick and twisted, and punishment is due - but killing him is nothing but counter-murder. And is not justifiable. If you want justice, make him live with his mistakes, remind him of the evil he has done. Not hide the problem under the carpet, so to speak. It's that kind of attitude that allows this kind of evil to prevail in the world. "Kill him! Just make him go away!" Instead of dealing with the problem, trying to find out why he did it, trying to prevent these sorts of things happening and trying to help those who have done something so very wrong (and are clearly in need of some sort of help) - a lot of you are happy just to make him disappear and carry on as normal.
And if this was one of your children you would still feel the same way?
You really think this guy feels the slightest bit of remorse?
...and what about this family's child? What about the children of other families you put in danger because you didn't remove this vile existence from society?
Another chance to take another innocent life?
No. This 'person' does not deserve another chance.
lethal injection can take up to 2 hours to kill a person, no its not strange, it's the same reason we try to make sure animals do not suffer much when they are slaughtered, people in general do not like to cause pain.
No he should not, justice is there to provide punishment and to stop there being revenge, subjugating him to pain serves absolutely no purpose other than to make you feel better. no one has tried to justify his actions.
That does not change the fact that he took away the life of a child with no justifiable reason under the law.
Many times people have tried this many times they have succeeded (or at least seemingly so) in finding out why a person did it, the only trouble is, what do you do with all the people who have not yet done anything, yet have the same brain defect/personality flaw (although these could arguably be the same thing) do you arrest them just in case, force them to undergo a medical treatment which will undoubtedly change them as a person, against their will just because they might commit a crime, do you put them under survalence 24/7 for the rest of their lives , and tell everyone they meet that they may turn into a killer one day?
If they don't want "help" and haven't done anything wrong yet, would it be moraly acceptable to force it upon them?
Oh please, get off your self righteous moral high horse.
No not everyone deserves a second chance, surely you do not think that someone who decapates a 15 month old deserves a second chance. I find that thought scary indeed.
Does it matter why he did it? you cannot possibly think that someone who will cut the head of a 15 month old baby over a dispute with it's mother could be understood or helped in any meaningfull way? he killed a 15 month old baby in a extremely painful and grusome manner someone who thinks that it is acceptable just should not be living in our society full stop. If you really think that then instead branding us all sick and twisted you should really have a close look at yourself.
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Knife? They should use a spoon.
Really, or are you joking?
You are saying if this happened to you and it was your kid you would be happy for the killer to end up in a nut house getting therapy?
You are a far more forgiving person than I would be, if that had been my kid and I had been there I would have killed the man where he stood!!!
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No one will be happy, after all he beheaded a child. If a dog had killed the child it would have been killed with out question. Why? Because if it did it once there is a chance it would do it again. People are no different with the exception of know before hand that what they are doing is wrong. Mad or bad? Punishment is not whats needed, removel from the gene pools is. Lock him in a cage for 40 years or take him out the back and end it in one chop. Only difference between 40 years and the chop is your frame of mind and the bill to feed them.
My biggest problem with the death penalty doesn't apply in this case. My problem is the possibility that someone may be wrongfully convicted because you can't take it back. Doesn't really apply here since there's no doubt at all he is guilty. I guess killing someone as a punishment is "wrong", but clearly this man needs to be removed from society somehow.
Why should he be given another chance to live and have the same rights as us. I very much doubt he will contribute anything special or unique to society, just a waste of space.
No-one who kills a child like that deserves no respect.
If he is killed I doubt he will be missed.
No-one who kills a child like that deserves no respect.
If he is killed I doubt he will be missed.
Would executing him bring the child back? Is it really going to do anything to ease the suffering of the parents? Very hard to answer that one imo.
I don't think we can say either way if the guy feels remorse or not, or more importantly will he feel remorse at some point in the future. If he does then imo, not executing him was the right thing to do.