The armed forces.

is there any reason they wear there uniform when theyre not on duty/at work anyway ?

i mean police and firemen etc dont go round still wearing there work gear on there days off

still , the case mentioned in the op is ridiculous , whoever refused ro treat em should be punished
 


Go grow a brain, even go over to Afghanistan your self.

Not only are the country fighting the Taliban over there but the governments involved in the war are paying millions of dollars and providing jobs for the local people there to build roads and need buildings like schools and hospitals.


You really have no clue do you?
 
is there any reason they wear there uniform when theyre not on duty/at work anyway ?

i mean police and firemen etc dont go round still wearing there work gear on there days off

tesco at lunchtime or to and from work !!! and lets not forget we are always on duty 24/7.
 
ah right ,good point

i shudda known that having done a job at catterick tescos and seeing the hundreds of forces people in there lol. doh
 
:( i hate this stuff, it really makes me ashamed of my fellow human beings that cant even respect other peoples sacrifices and are so easily short sighted and have a total lack of respect. personally i come from a military family , whilst not in it yet ive always considered it a option. my uncle got a broken rib from fighting some teenagers who had attacked a guy ahead of him due to him being in uniform (both of them are in the RAF) which apparently happens occasionally in Gibraltar, but at your own base and homes?

cowardly stupid people to abuse anyone but let alone for wearing the uniform of your country.
 
There is even a certain poster on here who has said on more than one occaision he supports British troops in Iraq and Afghanistan getting attacked, so I guess it is quite common :(


Thats his opinion and he's perfectly entitled to it - he may not be able to express his own personal opinion in his own backwards savage country that he comes from but in good old Blighty he's welcome to express himself in any manner. I wouldn't be too surprised though if any other individual takes offence to his opinion and lamps him one - thats the beauty of freedom of speech and living in a democratic society at work there !

One of my good mates is serving in Afghanistan right now, he's Air Traffic Control with the RAF, last time i spoke to him he told me the bombing is pretty much on going all the time - am sure he'd be shocked and very dissapointed to hear this is how our armed forces are being treated in our own country !

My brother (also RAF) is due to be sent out to Kabul in August, due to his chosen proffession he's unlikely to face any conflict (but with these savages you never know) Thankfully he's seen sense, shortly after his tour of duty out there he's leaving the forces and joining myself on civvy street.

This is a politicians war thats being lead by a non elected leader who has proven time and time again he's not even prepared to listen to the great british public, hell he wont even hold a referendum on the EU for fear of a negative vote - If he cant trust the public there's no way they'll trust him !
 
An incident occurred in a supermarket recently, when the following was
witnessed:

A woman was standing with her shopping in a queue at the checkout.

When it was her turn to be served, and as she reached the cashier, she made
a loud remark about the English Flag lapel pin, which the female cashier was
wearing on her blouse.

The cashier reached up and touched the pin and said, "Yes, I always wear it
proudly. My son serves abroad with the forces and I wear it for him". The
woman then asked the cashier when she was going to stop bombing and
killing her countrymen, explaining that she was Iraqi. At that point, a
Gentleman standing in the queue stepped forward, and interrupted with a calm
and gentle voice, and said to the Iraqi woman:

"Excuse me, but hundreds of men and women, just like this
ladies son have fought and sacrificed their lives so that people just like
YOU can stand here, in England, which is MY country and allow you to
blatantly accuse an innocent check-out cashier of bombing YOUR countrymen".

"It is my belief that if you were allowed to be as outspoken as that in
Iraq, which you claim to be YOUR country, then we wouldn't need to be
fighting there today".

"However - now that you have learned how to speak out and criticise the
English people who have afforded you the protection of MY country, I will
gladly pay the cost of a ticket to help you pay your way back to Iraq".

"When you get there, and if you manage to survive for being as outspoken as
what you are here in England, then you should be able to help straighten out
the mess which YOUR Iraqi countrymen have got you into in the first place,
which appears to be the reason that you have come to MY country to avoid."

Apparently the queue cheered and applauded.
 
Very proud of the men and women in our armed forces, and if I ever see them I tell them that they are doing a great job and most of us are proud!

Stelly
 
I would like to think that all authority figures providing a 'service' for the rest of the country would be treated with respect and highest regard.

Whether they are police, firefighters, medical professionals, armed forces etc, I feel saddened by the reports of abuse they recieve.

I especially become confused and upset when in hospital, I see many posters detailing accounts of violent abuse towards medical staff?! :eek: What on earth is wrong with some people?! :(

Whether you agree with the war or not, full support to the soldiers and forces personel who are doing the job that so many of us could not.

Hats off to those Men & Women :)
 
I see many posters detailing accounts of violent abuse towards medical staff?! :eek: What on earth is wrong with some people?! :(

I get it all the time at work in A+E, people seem to think that "as they pay our wages" they can treat us as they want. Even though we frequently have to get physical with people, at least we don't get shot at for our troubles!

It's just become symptomatic of the yob culture in this country, of people's lack of respect for anyone in any sort of authority or being seen to represent the powers that be.

The old cliche of "if it weren't for people like this we'd all be doing Heil Hitlers" is still true - irrespective of feelings for what we're doing in Iraq or Afghanistan, we should still have respect for those people that defend our country.
 
Hello everyone!

I've been reading these forums for a while now and I just had to sign up to give my opinion.

At first, I am against those current wars in Afganisthan and Iraq. There were no justification or acceptance from UN which is (in my opinion) the only way to start military actions. The whole idea of United Nations is ruined if those member countries do decisions regardeless of the opinion of the UN.

But that wasn't the point of my post, just background info of my point of view. I really can't understand people who are against armed force. The simple fact is that in every country there is an army - either your own or someone elses. And the only thing those soldiers are doing is their job. They are the most loyal, the most patriotic and the most vital workers of the nation. There wont be a nation for a long without them. So how in hell can someone not to admire them?

Democracy means that the true power is in the hand of people. They choose their leaders who then make decision for the country. And who else are more devoted to fullfill those challenges than soldiers? How many of those fat ass office workers and other abusers would go otherside of world without hesitation to work in strange place where you face sudden death anytime? Just because it is the decision of their home nation. True heroes if i can tell.

So wether one agrees with decisions of the politicians or not, their should never think it has something to do with soldiers. Even I have a great respect for all the soldiers fighting in Iraq and Afganisthan although I strongly disagree with excuses behind those wars.
 
Hello everyone!

At first, I am against those current wars in Afganisthan and Iraq.

Even I have a great respect for all the soldiers fighting in Iraq and Afganisthan although I strongly disagree with excuses behind those wars.

Iraq and Afghan are two very different dynamics, British forces are not fighting against Afghans, they are fighting alongside Afghans against insurgents (from outside Afghan).

Ive said it before and i'l say it again, unless you have been you are only seing a small part of the picture.
 
Isn't his position simply that he supports any country's right to defend itself from occupation? Obviously in the Iraqi situation the logical result is that British soldiers would be attacked but I don't think that is his express desire.

It was to start with, He edited his post back in SC when he got pulled up on it. The whole "countries right to defend itself" is his rather transparent version of spin

Which ever way you look at it there are British servicemen in those two coutries so he is supporting them getting attacked. He could just call for the the servicemen to be withdrawn but he goes farther and supports them getting attacked.:mad:
 
Hello everyone!

I've been reading these forums for a while now and I just had to sign up to give my opinion.

At first, I am against those current wars in Afganisthan and Iraq. There were no justification or acceptance from UN which is (in my opinion) the only way to start military actions. The whole idea of United Nations is ruined if those member countries do decisions regardeless of the opinion of the UN.

Hello & welcome!

Personally, I think the UN is the biggest problem of all. The way it works is fundamentally flawed, IMO. How are any of the world's problems supposed to be sorted out when the veto wielding superpowers all have conflicting interests, as well as vested interests in countries where lots of the problems stem from? Russia does good business with Iran, therefor it's almost impossible to get them to back any meaningful political/economic sanctions against Iran, who are blatantly violating the NPT and should have been dealt with years ago. The US always sides with Israel and veto's any UN Security Council action that even so much as condemns an Israeli atrocity. It would be like trying to solve something in court with most of the jury being made up of friends and family of those involved in the case!

As for badbob - he's sadly one of those people who thinks that by jumping onto his moral high-horse means he doesn't have to have an intelligent opinion on anything (mostly one line posts) because he must be right :rolleyes:
 
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