The Budget - Band G Tax £1000!

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That's right, Band G tax has risen from £300 to £1000 for cars emitting more than 225g of CO2. Cheers Darling, you ****.

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What an absolute joke. :mad:

Edit: It's £1000 "only" for the first year.
 
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No, the Road Tax for the FIRST YEAR will be £1000. Then it will be the same as before. It's basically an attempt at an envy sorry no wait, environmental new car purchase tax.

Tax those Tory ******* in their expensive new cars!! That'll show em. Vote Labour.
 
Apparently tax needs to rise £240 a year per household for ****head to balance his budget, otherwise the national debt will increase, again.

Edit: actually even if he did raise taxes by that amount he'd still be borrowing £36bn :(. Still, at least he's rumoured to be postponing the 2p petrol hike, although I guess the oil price rises have more than covered that increase.

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Its €2000 euro every year for cars over 225g here in ireland after June, thats what we get for voting in the greens as a minority party
 
By contrast, the least polluting vehicles will pay no road tax at all.

Why? Because the emissions are smaller does it cause less wear and tear on our roads? - Do they Hover or something!?
 
What really annoys me about the whole road tax thing is that it actually has no bearing on how much you pollute at all.

I drive a car which emits 228g/km of C02 and as a result, I am public enemy number 1. Im causing all the polar bears to die and I must be taxed constantly until I can take no more and buy a Fiesta.

Meanwhile, your average sales rep in his BMW 118d which emits only 130g/km of C02 is heralded as eco friendly and excellent and rewarded with road tax that costs 23 pence.

Even though he drives his 118d about 3-4 times the mileage I drive my 530i and thus emits double the C02 that I do..
 
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What really annoys me about the whole road tax thing is that it actually has no bearing on how much you pollute at all.

I drive a car which emits 228g/km of C02 and as a result, I am public enemy number 1. Im causing all the polar bears to die and I must be taxed constantly until I can take no more and buy a Fiesta.

Meanwhile, your average sales rep in his BMW 118d which emits only 130g/km of C02 is heralded as eco friendly and excellent and rewarded with road tax that costs 23 pence.

Even though he drives his 118d about 3-4 times the mileage I drive my 530i and thus emits double the C02 that I do..
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As you well know the majority of the tax burden is on the fuel rather than the road tax, as the difference between the top rated cars in VED and the lowest ones is a relatively small proportion of the total annual running costs. Most people don't really percieve this so the effect is that new car buyers shift to efficient models, like the aforementioned 118d.

Compared to the rest of Europe we surely have the highest proportion of new cars, just look at the used car values here compared to other EU countries. This means there must be scope to increase the tax burden on new cars. Hence I think £1000 tax 'gaz guzzler' tax is a good idea.
 
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Even though he drives his 118d about 3-4 times the mileage I drive my 530i and thus emits double the C02 that I do..

Exactly - the average porsche drive (my dad is one) rarely drives their cars. And the same applies to ferraris, aston martins etc.

I hate it all - us paying money isn't going to make a slight difference to the world...
 
Hence I think £1000 tax 'gaz guzzler' tax is a good idea.

But it is completley unrealistic. It should be on fuel only, that is the only real way to tax those who use the roads more. And the 118d is FAR more harmful to the enviroment then a 530i.
 
This is quite worrying as these tax hikes are getting ever and ever closer to just average cars... mine puts out 205 carbon dioxides per KM. I imagine that within 5 years this type of figure will be on the front line of the no mans land :(
 
But it is completley unrealistic. It should be on fuel only, that is the only real way to tax those who use the roads more. And the 118d is FAR more harmful to the enviroment then a 530i.

The vast majority of the tax burden is on fuel. This is a way of manipulating the kind of car new buyers will conisder (i.e. a fuel efficient one).
 
But if everyone went out and bought fuel efficient ones the government would just tax those as well. In fact it is happening already... the London CC no longer has an exemption for LPG vehicles for example...
 
The vast majority of the tax burden is on fuel. This is a way of manipulating the kind of car new buyers will conisder (i.e. a fuel efficient one).

But why should a less fuel efficient car cost more? Pick any super car the person buying that is not going to opt for the Derv R8 'to save the planet', it’s barley going to do more then 4-5k a year, far, far less CO2 emitted compared to a 20k a year Mondeo Derv that are running up and down the country. We would pay the tax anyway, there is no difference moving it onto fuel other then for Labour to tax the non-voters and claim they're saving the planet. It's a slippery slope into yet another textbook 'How to scam the country'.
 
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put the global warming BS down our throats and most of the general public thinks its a good idea to tax big cars...

personally id scrap road tax but increase fuel duty to like double or whatever. That way the people that do the most mileage pay the most, not the ones with expensive/rare cars that dont drive them much at all....
 
But if everyone went out and bought fuel efficient ones the government would just tax those as well. In fact it is happening already... the London CC no longer has an exemption for LPG vehicles for example...

Why should it?

No matter what a car is fueled by it will add to congestion. This is why the name "congestion charge" is an utter farce. It's a blatant lie.

It is actually a tax on pollution now - although the LANGUAGE! in charge will never admit that.
 
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