The Budget - Band G Tax £1000!

Well yes it's £400 as that was already in place for this year wasn't it? I think the worry should be when he said he is going to revise/revamp the bands next year.

Sure I knew when I got my car (280ish CO2's) I would pay top whack but annoys me tbh. I don't fly (never have) so can I have CO2 credits to offset my fat ass sports car ;)
 
Unfortuately, this is really making me want to change my car, a Mazda 3 MPS which is in Band G for a Focus ST or Civic Type R.. or any of the other hot hatches which are nearly £200 a year less to tax!
 
MTA99 said:
Have I missed some sarcasm or have you missed the point that's trying to be made?

There's a whole range of human activity that produce CO2 from computers to kettles, fridges to patio heaters, yet the car is the only one that's consistently singled out for "green" taxes.
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Sorry Ill just make things up

An any respiring makes 0.01 g of CO2/hr so you need to have your fridge on 72 hours to match that....

I was just trying to relate the facts in the post to the statement in the same post. They didnt seem to correlate with each other. Would have prefer an explaination so yes i think you missed the point.

Apologies for so many people taking the statement at face value but i guess that happens a lot.
 
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From page 96:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/13_03_08bud08_completereport.pdf

Budget 2008 announces reform of the vehicle excise duty (VED) structure. From 2009, VED will be restructured with new bands, based on carbon dioxide so that people gain financially by choosing the car with the best environmental performance in a given group. The financial difference between the most and least polluting cars will increase, so that making a small change in car emissions has a greater financial impact. From 2010, there will be a new higher first-year rate based on carbon dioxide emissions, to influence purchasing choices. Specific changes include:
  • six new VED bands from 2009-10 – including a new top band (band M) for the most polluting cars that emit more than 255g CO2 per km;
  • reducing the standard rate of VED, in 2009-10, for all new and existing cars that emit 150g of CO2 per km or less, and increasing the standard rate of VED on the most polluting cars to £425;
  • from 2010-11, extending the zero rate of VED, during the first year of ownership, to all new cars that emit 130g CO2 per km or less – the EU proposed target for average new car emissions in 2012;
  • holding the first-year rate for all new cars that emit between 131 and 160g CO2 per km equal to the standard rate in 2010-11;
  • introducing for the most polluting cars a first-year rate of £950 in 2010-11;
  • and providing a £15 or £20 discount for alternatively fuelled cars in 2009-10, and £10 in 2010-11; and aligning the alternative fuel and standard rates of VED in 2011.
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Still at least all that extra money they are taking from us will go to a good cause -

Darling: "Road pricing could reduce congestion and help our wider environmental problems" - he announced funds to test the technology.
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If the government is really worried about pollution why don't we have fleets of wind farms off shore so we can be less dependent on power stations? oh wait ....there an eye "ugly"....
 
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I like this. The Fabia gets cleaper - anything worse gets more expensive! ;)
 
I knew you'd love it :rolleyes:

My car will be going in Band M then, hello £440 a year tax. ******* government :(
 
I do like the "first year scaling" thing - the first year is when you make the decision what car to buy. This scaling factor increasing the effect of this mechanism.
 
clv101 said:
From page 122.

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I like this. The Fabia gets cleaper - anything worse gets more expensive! ;)
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What a surprise, more pointless taxes that serve no actual purpose because they don't take usage into account...

Still, keep convincing yourself it'll help, maybe with enough positive thinking it might even start happening ;)
 
For all those with low tax group cars....

If people eventually are put off buying big engined cars due to the high tax on them, the amount of revenue generated by the tax will decrease and he'll have to get it from somewhere else.

The green agenda from a taxation point of view has sod all to do with environmental issues, and everything to do with supplimenting income from tax.
 
VED influences vehicle choice - the new scheme will make the UK fleet more efficient that it would otherwise be - meaning the same economic activity (moving people/stuff around) can be done with less oil. Fundamentally, absolutely, unequivocally a good thing given we are an oil importer, run a trade deficit and are competing on the oil export market with countries running a trade surplus.
 
clv101 said:
I do like the "first year scaling" thing - the first year is when you make the decision what car to buy. This scaling factor increasing the effect of this mechanism.
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What a great idea, making people pay more for something. No different to going in to Sainsburys and saying 'Please PLEASE charge everybody an extra £5 on this bottle of wine, I WANT to pay more for it!'
 
clv101 said:
VED influences vehicle choice - the new scheme will make the UK fleet more efficient that it would otherwise be - meaning the same economic activity (moving people/stuff around) can be done with less oil. Fundamentally, absolutely, unequivocally a good thing given we are an oil importer, run a trade deficit and are competing on the oil export market with countries running a trade surplus.
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State interference in the market is very rarely a good thing... If the above was economically desirable, it would happen naturally without artifical interference from the state.
 
PeterNem said:
For all those with low tax group cars....

If people eventually are put off buying big engined cars due to the high tax on them, the amount of revenue generated by the tax will decrease and he'll have to get it from somewhere else.
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You say that as if it's a bad thing? When we are all put off buying big engined cars the country's oil import bill will be reduced, our economy will be in better shape relative to economies still struggling on with inefficient cars. Running an efficient vehicle fleet boosts the economy - looking for somewhere else to get the tax from is a small price to pay for a stronger, healthier economy.
 
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